Free Diet advice by Narkissos & Novastepp: Intro to Performance Nutrition 101

[DrBell]

Not any specific reply on your diet. Hate to see nark suspended. Not stealing these guys show, but I totally agree with them. I know I only have like 70 something post and these guys are vets, but My degree involves a lot of nutrition. I agree with them on everything they are saying. Moderation on carbs. No simple carbs, only complex ones. Lots of protein and very low fat. Only fats taken in need to be of the O M E G A 3,6,&9 category that you would get out of fish, flax or borage oils. Everyone should avoid milk and everything else that is white except beans, eggs, and cauliflower. Milk is very bad for you. It is intended for baby calf not humans. Rice milk is safe for men. Soy contains alot of phytoestrogens as well. Sugar, flour, starches all bad. Don't shop the middle isles of the store. Bottom line is if it ain't in your cabinet you won't eat it. So, learn how to shop properly. Get the produce up front, meat down the side isle, and the juice and eggs are in the last isle. Fruit juice that is. Awe dream with me. If we could only go to the store and get our juice. LOL NE way back to the subject..... The middle isles are boxed foods with thickeners which are starches, noodles, baked goods, chips, sodas, snacks. All these things are empty calories that have no place in an athletes body.
Peanut butter? Hmmm I can rationalize protein and some good fats. LOL

[TR'05]

Not any specific reply on your diet. Hate to see nark suspended. Not stealing these guys show, but I totally agree with them. I know I only have like 70 something post and these guys are vets, but My degree involves a lot of nutrition. I agree with them on everything they are saying. Moderation on carbs. No simple carbs, only complex ones. Lots of protein and very low fat. Only fats taken in need to be of the O M E G A 3,6,&9 category that you would get out of fish, flax or borage oils. Everyone should avoid milk and everything else that is white except beans, eggs, and cauliflower. Milk is very bad for you. It is intended for baby calf not humans. Rice milk is safe for men. Soy contains alot of phytoestrogens as well. Sugar, flour, starches all bad. Don't shop the middle isles of the store. Bottom line is if it ain't in your cabinet you won't eat it. So, learn how to shop properly. Get the produce up front, meat down the side isle, and the juice and eggs are in the last isle. Fruit juice that is. Awe dream with me. If we could only go to the store and get our juice. LOL NE way back to the subject..... The middle isles are boxed foods with thickeners which are starches, noodles, baked goods, chips, sodas, snacks. All these things are empty calories that have no place in an athletes body.
Peanut butter? Hmmm I can rationalize protein and some good fats. LOL

With respect to the bolded portion of your reply, I have to respectfully disagree.

Moderate amounts of saturated fats are vitally important to any physically active individual; and, even more so for those training for strength. I don't even think I have to go into the details with respect to this.


Nark & Nova, I am happy that you two have started this thread. Too often people are offering up IMHO poor, vague, or simply uninformed advice. This could be sticky-worthy in the foreseeable future.

Although my own methodologies differ quite markedly with your own, I am always eager to read what both of you have to say when it comes to nutrition.

[pump.joe]

Why exactly is milk bad for you?

[novastepp]

Why exactly is milk bad for you?

I know you were replying to him, but I have something to say about milk. First of all, I do not have a dairy allergy like many do. Basically it doesn't bloat me. Many have problems digesting the sugars in milk, mainly galactose. Many folks have slight food allergies and don't know it. For instance I get really bloated if I eat rice, and that is my little food allergy. So I stay away from rice.

In reference to milks nutritional value, wow. I love it. Low GI sugar, whey and casein protein. 80% of the protein in milk is usually whey and the other 20% is usually casein.

I also use milk in every single PWO meal.

[pump.joe]

I know you were replying to him, but I have something to say about milk. First of all, I do not have a dairy allergy like many do. Basically it doesn't bloat me. Many have problems digesting the sugars in milk, mainly galactose. Many folks have slight food allergies and don't know it. For instance I get really bloated if I eat rice, and that is my little food allergy. So I stay away from rice.

In reference to milks nutritional value, wow. I love it. Low GI sugar, whey and casein protein. 80% of the protein in milk is usually whey and the other 20% is usually casein.

I also use milk in every single PWO meal.

Thanks for chiming in, Nova. I've read a couple posts on this board about how lifters should stay away from milk with no mention of lactose intolerance. I'd like to hear the rationale behind that, if there is one. I drink milk for the reasons you stated above, but if there is a reason I should avoid it I'd like to know!

[Fat Bloke]

over 50 fat bloke needs help to loose weight ,running out of ideas
my medication i am on is as follows
1. bendroflumethiazde 2.5 mg blood/p
2.candesartan 16mg blood/p
3.atorvastaitin 40mg colesterol
4.levothyroxine 200 micograms over active pituitary gland
5. glucosamine & chondroitin 500mg + 400mg x 3 4knee's
I am 5'8'' 240lbs 50''chest 46''belly 25%bf i have been training hard since xmas have been eating clean 4months only loss 7lbs in the first 3 weeks but cant move any more can you help
train 5 days a week weights and cardio HIT 30mins or 45min low if knees are sore?
8.00 oatmeal /semi milk,glass protien drink water,tea
10.30 4 eggs scramble or tuna
1.00 chicken,brown rice,green veg,water,cup tea
3.00 protien drink 1/2cup oats
4.30 training,lots of water about 3 bottles
6.00 whey protein drink
6.30, chicken or fish lots of vegs potatos,pasta,or rice, cup tea,water
10.00 protien drink
any ideas please or changes, i was thinging of trying The Ketogenic Diet

[spywizard]

over 50 fat bloke needs help to loose weight ,running out of ideas
my medication i am on is as follows
1. bendroflumethiazde 2.5 mg blood/p
2.candesartan 16mg blood/p
3.atorvastaitin 40mg colesterol
4.levothyroxine 200 micograms over active pituitary gland
5. glucosamine & chondroitin 500mg + 400mg x 3 4knee's
I am 5'8'' 240lbs 50''chest 46''belly 25%bf i have been training hard since xmas have been eating clean 4months only loss 7lbs in the first 3 weeks but cant move any more can you help
train 5 days a week weights and cardio HIT 30mins or 45min low if knees are sore?
8.00 oatmeal /semi milk,glass protien drink water,tea
10.30 4 eggs scramble or tuna
1.00 chicken,brown rice,green veg,water,cup tea
3.00 protien drink 1/2cup oats
4.30 training,lots of water about 3 bottles
6.00 whey protein drink
6.30, chicken or fish lots of vegs potatos,pasta,or rice, cup tea,water
10.00 protien drink
any ideas please or changes, i was thinging of trying The Ketogenic Diet

at your age, i would not recommend the keto diet..

I'm 47 by the way..
you could do the above diet, but drop the rice, potato, pasta..
you need to add EFA/fish oil and cook in olive oil..

I find the cutting sticky easy to follow, it's at the top of this diet forum..

[novastepp]

Although my own methodologies differ quite markedly with your own, I am always eager to read what both of you have to say when it comes to nutrition.

and in all honesty, that is what makes this so great. There are varying opinions in regard to dieting. We are merely showing ours based on science, and our experiences with others and ourselves. I would ask you to gather as much info as you can and try this approach. It really does work wonders for those dedicated to the lifestyle we choose to follow. one of destruction and big thighs.

[novastepp]

Only fats taken in need to be of the O M E G A 3,6,&9 category that you would get out of fish, flax or borage oils.

i don't agree with that at all, and that totally depends on what you are doing with your diet. Fats are essential to hormone regulation, and after harsh cycles it is commonplace for extreme supplementation with saturated fats. But this isn't the discussion we are looking for in this thread so I won't comment on it further.

Everyone should avoid milk and everything else that is white except beans, eggs, and cauliflower. Milk is very bad for you. It is intended for baby calf not humans. Rice milk is safe for men. Soy contains alot of phytoestrogens as well.

wow, that's a blanket sweep that isn't backed by much literature at all. I use milk bulking/cutting/crapping... all the time. and to say food thats are "white" are harmful is juvenile.

Sugar, flour, starches all bad. Don't shop the middle isles of the store. Bottom line is if it ain't in your cabinet you won't eat it. So, learn how to shop properly. Get the produce up front, meat down the side isle, and the juice and eggs are in the last isle. Fruit juice that is. Awe dream with me. If we could only go to the store and get our juice.

you said sugar was bad, but you're buying fruit juice? I don't see any sense to your post and I am basically going to disregard what you said.

NE way back to the subject..... The middle isles are boxed foods with thickeners which are starches, noodles, baked goods, chips, sodas, snacks. All these things are empty calories that have no place in an athletes body.
Peanut butter? Hmmm I can rationalize protein and some good fats. LOL

i don't know what to say. did you have a question?