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    Quote Originally Posted by pietro75 View Post
    if you do a cycle of oral primo i gurentee you that you will be very disapointed. oral primo is very weak and you will not see much results. if you want to go oral only then use t-bol or var but dont expect to gain as much as a test cycle. i assume your afraid of needles? my theroy is, if your afraid to shoot then you shouldnt be messing with steroids
    Haven't needle phobia- have once injected hcg almost as pct. Just oral have shorter half life in humans body when it ends to react, so if I'm using test injections they have much longer half life to brake it down- so, in my opinion it'd too hard for my body as first stuff to try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hdd123 View Post
    Haven't needle phobia- have once injected hcg almost as pct. Just oral have shorter half life in humans body when it ends to react, so if I'm using test injections they have much longer half life to brake it down- so, in my opinion it'd too hard for my body as first stuff to try.
    disagree completely. easier to maintain steady blood levels with injectables, no hepatic first-pass metabolism, etc. orals are much harsher as a general rule.

    no idea about oral primo. Primo as injectable has a weak reputation. IMO not much point in using weakly anabolic drugs in a new user (EQ, primo, var, etc)

    If you don't want to inject go tbol only first cycle. 8 weeks - start 40 mg and work up to 80 mg depending on gi sides. do a search - lots of good info on this site

    good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_dubya33 View Post
    disagree completely. easier to maintain steady blood levels with injectables, no hepatic first-pass metabolism, etc. orals are much harsher as a general rule.

    no idea about oral primo. Primo as injectable has a weak reputation. IMO not much point in using weakly anabolic drugs in a new user (EQ, primo, var, etc)

    If you don't want to inject go tbol only first cycle. 8 weeks - start 40 mg and work up to 80 mg depending on gi sides. do a search - lots of good info on this site

    good luck

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    Thnx for the advice and wish, but how about mild orals' impact on my test., I mean if there would be a little increase of T using primo, anawar, turinabol, etc. (using all those injectables and strong orals, test. levels usually increases extremelly).

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    Quote Originally Posted by hdd123 View Post
    Thnx for the advice and wish, but how about mild orals' impact on my test., I mean if there would be a little increase of T using primo, anawar, turinabol, etc. (using all those injectables and strong orals, test. levels usually increases extremelly).
    Happy to try to answer your question I'm just really not sure what you are asking...

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    Quote Originally Posted by big_dubya33 View Post
    Happy to try to answer your question I'm just really not sure what you are asking...
    I'm asking if using such mild oral anabolic- androgenic steroids as primo, anav, etc. there would be a "mild" increase in my testosterone levels when I'll take my testosterone blood tests for about after a month, or not? I also said that long term injectables will increase extremelly hightly my serum testosterone levels (even many times more I'll be able to produce naturally)- this is not question (there's question only about mild orals).

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    Quote Originally Posted by hdd123 View Post
    I'm asking if using such mild oral anabolic- androgenic steroids as primo, anav, etc. there would be a "mild" increase in my testosterone levels when I'll take my testosterone blood tests for about after a month, or not? I also said that long term injectables will increase extremelly hightly my serum testosterone levels (even many times more I'll be able to produce naturally)- this is not question (there's question only about mild orals).
    I'll bump for others. If you're trying to pass a blood test for high test levels I have no experience with this...if you are concerned about side effects from high test levels I'd still recommend tbol only...low sides and you'll still get v good gains.

    you can try var but again users I've seen do well on a drug like var are advanced and very low body fat.

    Again, best of luck to you

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    Quote Originally Posted by hdd123 View Post
    I'm asking if using such mild oral anabolic- androgenic steroids as primo, anav, etc. there would be a "mild" increase in my testosterone levels when I'll take my testosterone blood tests for about after a month, or not? I also said that long term injectables will increase extremelly hightly my serum testosterone levels (even many times more I'll be able to produce naturally)- this is not question (there's question only about mild orals).
    umm what? orals shut down test production. Can't decode what you said about injectables but they shut down test production as well. Anything besides testosterone decrease your serum testosterone levels, the reason it is so highly recomended you put test in every cycle. You need pct to recover from both types of cycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    umm what? orals shut down test production. Can't decode what you said about injectables but they shut down test production as well. Anything besides testosterone decrease your serum testosterone levels, the reason it is so highly recomended you put test in every cycle. You need pct to recover from both types of cycles.
    Ok...this one seems good. Yeah, I'm new in relations with steroids, but didn't heard that "mild" oral substances can shut down my hpta as rought as tests, yes they CAN shut it a little bit, but it's also said, that it's easyier to recover from them during pct. No, no testosterone is endogenous steroid what SUPRESS natural testosterone levels(and it's not meaned in relation with hpta suppresion, althought it does it quite a lot,too). Yes there'd be now quite a lot of synthetic testosterone in my bloodstream and tissues, but my organism'd became lazy and nonproducing. Exogenous steroids instead of endogenous could damage or supress adrenal gland function. Yes I really need good pct examples, hope u'd get some advices about them from u 2 later.
    Anyway I'm not going to do oral primobolan, because I can only get injectable version of this here in my area. What else from orals I can take for the first cycle?

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