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    Quote Originally Posted by eliteforce View Post
    Your playing with words here when you describe Wright and his church as 'racist', this is someone who is accused of going to far when criticizing America's past policies, misrepresenting what America stands for, and demagoging for example:
    1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

    Wright describes Itallians as Garlic Noses, constantly rails against 'white america', saying HIV was introduced into the ghetto on purpose, thinks black and white people 'learn differently because black people are right brained and white people are left brained', and gave an award to lewis farrakhan!

    What he is preaching is hatred and intolerance of other races and in an institutionalized setting. It might be demagoging but its also racism, plain and simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zartan View Post
    1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

    Wright describes Itallians as Garlic Noses, constantly rails against 'white america', saying HIV was introduced into the ghetto on purpose, thinks black and white people 'learn differently because black people are right brained and white people are left brained', and gave an award to lewis farrakhan!

    What he is preaching is hatred and intolerance of other races and in an institutionalized setting. It might be demagoging but its also racism, plain and simple.
    No one cares besides you and a handful of people. People who would not vote for Obama anyway. McCain's association with Bush is a bigger issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E View Post
    No one cares besides you and a handful of people. People who would not vote for Obama anyway. McCain's association with Bush is a bigger issue.


    A) I may vote for Obama, the Wright issue definitely throws me off.

    B) 33% is a huge amount of people who care. Why do you think hes been struggling against HIllary?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zartan View Post
    Why do you think hes been struggling against HIllary?
    Struggling? Last time I checked he's winning.
    While overall discomfort with an African-American president is much lower, it rises among less-educated whites. Among whites who haven't gone through college, 17 percent say they'd be at least somewhat uncomfortable with a black president; that compares with just 4 percent of white college graduates.
    He's not winnning over uneducated White people who said when polled they don't want a woman or a Black man for president. They would feel the same even if Rev. Wrights videos never came out.

    May I ask, did you go to college?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E View Post
    Struggling?
    Yes its been an extremely close race, have you not been watching?

    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E View Post
    Last time I checked he's winning.

    He's not winnning over uneducated White people who said when polled they don't want a woman or a Black man for president. They would feel the same even if Rev. Wrights videos never came out. May I ask, did you go to college?
    I'm not sure what difference it makes if I went to college, there are plenty of million dollar educated jackass's, take Michelle Obama for example. But if it somehow will help you to set your stereotypes aside, yes I did go to college. White America is clearly ready for a black or female president, I think the question is if Black America is ready.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zartan View Post
    Yes its been an extremely close race, have you not been watching?
    It's not a close race and hasn't been since Obama won 13 states in a row after Super Tuesday. The media as said it was a close race for ratings. To keep people watching! She lost Super Tuesday.

    Clinton is losing in the number of states won, pledge delegates, super delegates and the popular vote. She's losing by every metric. She has no way of over taking Obama's unless she wins 75% in all the remaining primaries. Which is impossible.

    Obama on the other hand will have the number of delegates wrapped up by Oregon on May 20th. He needs 146 more. Clinton needs 325.

    So again, how is this a close race?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E View Post
    It's not a close race and hasn't been since Obama won 13 states in a row after Super Tuesday. The media as said it was a close race for ratings. To keep people watching! She lost Super Tuesday.

    Clinton is losing in the number of states won, pledge delegates, super delegates and the popular vote. She's losing by every metric. She has no way of over taking Obama's unless she wins 75% in all the remaining primaries. Which is impossible.

    Obama on the other hand will have the number of delegates wrapped up by Oregon on May 20th. He needs 146 more. Clinton needs 325.

    So again, how is this a close race?
    lol yer funny dude, I'm not sure what kind of semantics you're arguing, its been a VERY CLOSE race:

    Hussein Obama 16,003,521 49.5%
    Hitlery: 15,266,942 47.3%

    (W/O Florida and Michigan)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_E View Post
    He's not winnning over uneducated White people who said when polled they don't want a woman or a Black man for president. They would feel the same even if Rev. Wrights videos never came out.

    May I ask, did you go to college?
    so only 'unedu-macated whoite boiths' disagree with you guys, ands thats just because we don't want a black president, period.

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    Lemme put it this way; traditionally white people are the majority here and black people were brought here as slaves, and there is a history of injustice against them..and they are the more vulnerable part of the population in case of mass insurection (ie: militias taking over various parts of the country) , and they have less economic power .. so no-one really cares if some of the poorer ones or more 'acedemic' ones vent in this fashon, i don't. It's much more threatning when it's coming from a KuKluxKlan type, black fear that it could become more mainstream. and i still don't see where wright say blacks are 'better' than whites, preaches segregation, encourages blacks to hate white people etc., his comments all seem directed at the system and general attitudes.

    and again with those 3rd party attributes to Wright..you have to see a tape or if it was written by him there needs to be a reference:

    garlic noses-so whats the big deal, maybe it was a goof, so he made a political correctness mistake, he's just some stupid preacher, before this no-one even knew who he was.

    learning differently-hello, need more and what context, and who the fk cares what side your brain you think out of..and he was probably joking again

    lewis farakhan-an award for what? and now your going from vilinizing BO because he is associated with wright, you then hit an issue wall and are unable to really explain why this wright guy is really so bad, so now your jetting off to lewis farakhan..

    Quote Originally Posted by zartan View Post
    1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
    2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
    3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

    Wright describes Itallians as Garlic Noses, constantly rails against 'white america', saying HIV was introduced into the ghetto on purpose, thinks black and white people 'learn differently because black people are right brained and white people are left brained', and gave an award to lewis farrakhan!

    What he is preaching is hatred and intolerance of other races and in an institutionalized setting. It might be demagoging but its also racism, plain and simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliteforce View Post
    in case of mass insurection (ie: militias taking over various parts of the country)
    HAHAHA enough said.

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