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    Quote Originally Posted by Nstart View Post
    I have been unable to find any scientific or medical journal/article that actually proves that milk thistle helps. Most publications come to a conclusion that milk thistle does not help liver function. The few publications that have viewed milk thistle favorably has stated that at best it may help liver function when taken in large dosages over prolonged (years) periods of time. Hence, taking it during a cycle will do absolutely nothing.

    If you have any credible scientific or medical evidence that states otherwise I would love to read it. Every single doctor I have asked about this, and the countless number of searches I have done on my school's medical library (and the access to we have to almost every other medical publication online) has yielded absolutely no evidence to support milk thistle does anything for your liver.
    see if your school may have this book, Pharmacology, kee, hayes, mcquiston, copyright 2006.

    "Milk Thistle (Silybum marianum)
    This herbal extract has the remarkable ability to prevent damage to liver cells and stimulate regeneration of liver cells. These findings have been validated by research. Milk thistle is widely used in Europe to treat hepatitis, cirrhosis, and fatty liver associated with drugs and alcohol. Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics are not known." p.172

    then table9-2 p.178

    "Milk thistle
    class I herb
    seeds of dried flowers

    actions and uses: increased regeneration of liver cells; increases antioxidant activity uses: liver disease (hepatitis) choleocystitis, psoriasis.

    dosage: cap/tab: initially 500 mg divided in 3 doses for 6-8 weeks. with improvement: 120-240 mg/day in 3 doses; may take 7-10 days for effect; 4-8 weeks if liver diseased with alcohol.

    interactions: avoid use in preganacy,lactation, in children. herb does not reverse cirrhotic liver changes but disease may slow with increased quality of life.

    precautions: none known

    side/adverse affects: nausea vomiting, and menstrual changes."



    and i can assure you this has nothing to do with any companies or affiliates.

    and could you post some things related to this,"Most publications come to a conclusion that milk thistle does not help liver function."

    i have seen it said it that there is no evidence to support for sure, but i have not seen it said that milk thistle does not help liver function for sure......so if you could i would like to read that. i have access to many publications also so author and page number would do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lex57 View Post
    see if your school may have this book, Pharmacology, kee, hayes, mcquiston, copyright 2006.

    "Milk Thistle (Silybum marianum)
    This herbal extract has the remarkable ability to prevent damage to liver cells and stimulate regeneration of liver cells. These findings have been validated by research. Milk thistle is widely used in Europe to treat hepatitis, cirrhosis, and fatty liver associated with drugs and alcohol. Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics are not known." p.172

    then table9-2 p.178

    "Milk thistle
    class I herb
    seeds of dried flowers

    actions and uses: increased regeneration of liver cells; increases antioxidant activity uses: liver disease (hepatitis) choleocystitis, psoriasis.

    dosage: cap/tab: initially 500 mg divided in 3 doses for 6-8 weeks. with improvement: 120-240 mg/day in 3 doses; may take 7-10 days for effect; 4-8 weeks if liver diseased with alcohol.

    interactions: avoid use in preganacy,lactation, in children. herb does not reverse cirrhotic liver changes but disease may slow with increased quality of life.

    precautions: none known

    side/adverse affects: nausea vomiting, and menstrual changes."



    and i can assure you this has nothing to do with any companies or affiliates.

    and could you post some things related to this,"Most publications come to a conclusion that milk thistle does not help liver function."

    i have seen it said it that there is no evidence to support for sure, but i have not seen it said that milk thistle does not help liver function for sure......so if you could i would like to read that. i have access to many publications also so author and page number would do.
    That is one text book that states that. How are you sure the author is correct? There is so much information out there that contradicts this.

    How would you like to see these publishings? They are all either pdf files or articles that cannot be replicated. If you have access to a school's medical library (on the computer) just search for the term "Milk thistle" and you'll find tons of articles showing no benefit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nstart View Post
    That is one text book that states that. How are you sure the author is correct? There is so much information out there that contradicts this.

    How would you like to see these publishings? They are all either pdf files or articles that cannot be replicated. If you have access to a school's medical library (on the computer) just search for the term "Milk thistle" and you'll find tons of articles showing no benefit.
    if there are tons will you show me one that states there is for sure no benefit ?thanks. if there are tons i am sure you can find some somewhere that can be replicated. and how are you so sure that the authors are correct? just wondering. and maybe you should tell the poster dn1024 to stop the milk thistle. i am sure he will listen to you also because what you have read and cannot show anyone else. that is rather conveniant. and how would the article from the department of health and human services not be "accepted by well established medical or scientific publications" i guess "nstart" is a scientific publication. no he is a guy with an opinion just like me.
    Last edited by lex57; 05-24-2008 at 02:52 PM.

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