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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4 View Post
    They are extremely poor sources of vitamins (particularly vitamins A, B-group, folic acid and C), minerals, antioxidants and phytosterols.).
    Yep. Rice is akin to putting water in a Jaguar. Why use an inferior energy source for a high performance machine such as the human body?
    I know it's shunned upon by some in the BB community, but low GI carbs is what the human body functions best off of. Yes, an even low GI carbs PWO too. SHOCKING!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle View Post
    Yep. Rice is akin to putting water in a Jaguar. Why use an inferior energy source for a high performance machine such as the human body?
    I know it's shunned upon by some in the BB community, but low GI carbs is what the human body functions best off of. Yes, an even low GI carbs PWO too. SHOCKING!

    Pinnacle

    dear Big pinn,


    I use Waxy Maize Starch during and post ???? You think I should change? If you could explain that would be great my man

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4 View Post
    dear Big pinn,


    I use Waxy Maize Starch during and post ???? You think I should change? If you could explain that would be great my man

    In see no need to consume any carbs intra workout. I have used a variation of Milo's cocktail for years now intra workout(excluding the carbs).
    Pre work out the most an individual would need is 30 grams of low GI carbs to sustain energy while training. For some reason people think they burn huge amounts of glycogen (carbs) during a training session. That isn't so at all. Arnold, who trained high volume,and for prolonged periods, only burned 350 calories during a training session. DOCUMENTED FACT!

    I know all the mumbo jumbo about using fast digesting carbs PWO, but over the years I've found through experimenting on myself, and many trainee's that there is absolutely no difference in growth between consuming high GI carbs PWO and consuming low GI carbs. There is a huge difference in BF accumulation though. Low GI carbs keep you much leaner thus allowing you to consume more on a daily basis, and carbs are needed for growth, especially training HIT.
    My PWO meal that I've been eating for several years now is egg whites and sweet potato right in my car in the parking lot. No shakes ever...shocking! Uncanny thing is, I'm making great progress on a yearly basis and my body fat never exceeds 11% at any given time.

    Also, guys usually consume far too many carbs in their PWO shake, then consume far too many carbs at their PWO meal. Then they wonder why they look like f*cking blimps. Someone tell me how a guy with an LBM of say 180 pounds needs 75 g of carbs in a PWO shake,and then needs 75 g more at their PWO meal. Most pro's I'm friends with don't even consume that many carbs in one sitting. You need healthy fats PWO. They are calorie dense so you need to take that into account as well. 50 g carbs,plus moderate healthy fat is more than enough for most individuals with an LBM of over 180.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle View Post
    In see no need to consume any carbs intra workout. I have used a variation of Milo's cocktail for years now intra workout(excluding the carbs).
    Pre work out the most an individual would need is 30 grams of low GI carbs to sustain energy while training. For some reason people think they burn huge amounts of glycogen (carbs) during a training session. That isn't so at all. Arnold, who trained high volume,and for prolonged periods, only burned 350 calories during a training session. DOCUMENTED FACT!

    I know all the mumbo jumbo about using fast digesting carbs PWO, but over the years I've found through experimenting on myself, and many trainee's that there is absolutely no difference in growth between consuming high GI carbs PWO and consuming low GI carbs. There is a huge difference in BF accumulation though. Low GI carbs keep you much leaner thus allowing you to consume more on a daily basis, and carbs are needed for growth, especially training HIT.
    My PWO meal that I've been eating for several years now is egg whites and sweet potato right in my car in the parking lot. No shakes ever...shocking! Uncanny thing is, I'm making great progress on a yearly basis and my body fat never exceeds 11% at any given time.

    Also, guys usually consume far too many carbs in their PWO shake, then consume far too many carbs at their PWO meal. Then they wonder why they look like f*cking blimps. Someone tell me how a guy with an LBM of say 180 pounds needs 75 g of carbs in a PWO shake,and then needs 75 g more at their PWO meal. Most pro's I'm friends with don't even consume that many carbs in one sitting. You need healthy fats PWO. They are calorie dense so you need to take that into account as well. 50 g carbs,plus moderate healthy fat is more than enough for most individuals with an LBM of over 180.

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    Pure evil,pure education,pure experience.Your a shocking guy (I wish I was as smart as you)

    thanks for the great post

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle View Post
    You need healthy fats PWO. They are calorie dense so you need to take that into account as well. 50 g carbs,plus moderate healthy fat is more than enough for most individuals with an LBM of over 180.

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    fat pwo? can you please explain? i thought they were slow digestion which is not what is wanted after a workout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 200byjune View Post
    fat pwo? can you please explain? i thought they were slow digestion which is not what is wanted after a workout.
    Educated bodybuilders all know healthy fats are necessary PWO.
    Since when will 7-8 grams of healthy fats slow down digestion any more than having beef PWO? Think about it...

    Further, you need fats to aid in digestion.

    Do you really think your post work meal is going towards growth? If you do, you're sadly mistaken. The bodies first thing it will do after training is replenish energy(glycogen). Your body doesn't give a rat ass about muscle. Our bodies need energy to function and that's the first thing after training your body does. Secondly, did you know it takes upwards of 48 hrs to completely replenish gylcogen stores?
    So tell me how one meal with healthy fats is going to make or break your training?
    It's scientifically proven for proper protein synthesis to occur healthy fats must be present.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle View Post
    Yep. Rice is akin to putting water in a Jaguar. Why use an inferior energy source for a high performance machine such as the human body?
    I know it's shunned upon by some in the BB community, but low GI carbs is what the human body functions best off of. Yes, an even low GI carbs PWO too. SHOCKING!

    Pinnacle

    I'm gluten intolerant and have been eating brown rice up to this point. Apart from potatoes, what low GI food source would you recommend to me for carbs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dicknang View Post
    I'm gluten intolerant and have been eating brown rice up to this point. Apart from potatoes, what low GI food source would you recommend to me for carbs?
    Sweet potato, lentils, pearl barley. Even strawberries/blueberries too.

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