Gay marriage may be a gift to California's economy

[CeeLo]

Ok, I give. Everyone is entitled to have their own opinons. This is a subject that is way to HOT for me to handle. I seem to be out number and I'm jumping ship.

I don't have a problem with people who choose to live that life style, but it just aint for me.

[Carlos_E]

Ok, I give. Everyone is entitled to have their own opinons. This is a subject that is way to HOT for me to handle. I seem to be out number and I'm jumping ship.

I don't have a problem with people who choose to live that life style, but it just aint for me.

Your first mistake is calling being gay a choice. Can you tell me the day you chose to be straight? Or have you always had an attraction to women. If you can't answer that, why do you assume people choose to be gay?

The only choice involved is whether or not you choose to tell other people.

[Peducho0113]

Your first mistake is calling being gay a choice. Can you tell me the day you chose to be straight? Or have you always had an attraction to women. If you can't answer that, why do you assume people choose to be gay?

The only choice involved is whether or not you choose to tell other people.

Carlos, I think a lot of people still think that sexuallity is a choice.

[CeeLo]

Carlos, I think a lot of people still think that sexuallity is a choice.

I didn't want to go here, but here we go.... A little debate never really hurt anyone, right? Like I said, I don't have anything against gays, I even have a friend that is one and I think he is the coolest person, I just don't understand it.


Yes, I do think that sexuality is a choice. Not so much even a choice, but a fact of life. If you are born with Testosterone, Testicles, and a Penis, you should be looking for someone with Estrogen, Vagina, and a Clitoris.

I believe that I have always been attracted to the female gender as a man. As far back as can remember, a girl was a facination for me. I believe my recolection takes me back to the 3rd grade. My son whos is in the 1st grade and even in pre-school took a liking to girls.

I believe that it is just the way men and women are made, Like he (God) gave men test and women estrogen.

Then there is the point where Gay and Lesbian couples want to raise a family with kids and all. They can't naturally have one together, so they have to manipulate the system and either adopt or Test tube them. Then how will they raise those kids? Will they allow them to have their own outlook on gainess or will their minds be altered?

[FallenWyvern]

This part of his part is more relevant than what you quoted and he's absolutley right about it. Marriage should not be handled by the government.

I didn't want to go here, but here we go.... A little debate never really hurt anyone, right? Like I said, I don't have anything against gays, I even have a friend that is one and I think he is the coolest person, I just don't understand it.


Yes, I do think that sexuality is a choice. Not so much even a choice, but a fact of life. If you are born with Testosterone, Testicles, and a Penis, you should be looking for someone with Estrogen, Vagina, and a Clitoris.

I believe that I have always been attracted to the female gender as a man. As far back as can remember, a girl was a facination for me. I believe my recolection takes me back to the 3rd grade. My son whos is in the 1st grade and even in pre-school took a liking to girls.

I believe that it is just the way men and women are made, Like he (God) gave men test and women estrogen.

Then there is the point where Gay and Lesbian couples want to raise a family with kids and all. They can't naturally have one together, so they have to manipulate the system and either adopt or Test tube them. Then how will they raise those kids? Will they allow them to have their own outlook on gainess or will their minds be altered?

As a straight man to another straight man(I can't believe I am defending homosexuality).

Why would any one chose to be a minority that is oppressed?

Homosexulity goes all the way back in history, did all those people chose that too?

Animals in the wild are commonly gay, do they chose that? Did your god make them gay too or do they chose?

Plumbing is plumbing. I don't think I will completely understand what it is like to be gay or why they are that way because it is what it is.

To all the gay guys, I am not closet. Sorry, not wired that way.


And wtf is with the having a friend that is gay, is it some sort of novelty to have a gay friend or know someone gay or have a gay uncle??

[CeeLo]

Most of what you wrote was a bunch of jibberish! The only thing that I could understand was the last question. To answer that question. By me referencing a gay friend, I was showing that I do not discriminate against gays! It's defiently not a novelty, as you call it, but a sign of acceptance. However, I do not condone it!

As a straight man to another straight man(I can't believe I am defending homosexuality).

Why would any one chose to be a minority that is oppressed?

Homosexulity goes all the way back in history, did all those people chose that too?

Animals in the wild are commonly gay, do they chose that? Did your god make them gay too or do they chose?

Plumbing is plumbing. I don't think I will completely understand what it is like to be gay or why they are that way because it is what it is.

To all the gay guys, I am not closet. Sorry, not wired that way.


And wtf is with the having a friend that is gay, is it some sort of novelty to have a gay friend or know someone gay or have a gay uncle??

[DSM4Life]

I didn't want to go here, but here we go.... A little debate never really hurt anyone, right? Like I said, I don't have anything against gays, I even have a friend that is one and I think he is the coolest person, I just don't understand it.


Yes, I do think that sexuality is a choice. Not so much even a choice, but a fact of life. If you are born with Testosterone, Testicles, and a Penis, you should be looking for someone with Estrogen, Vagina, and a Clitoris.

I stopped reading here so i can answer one part.

I have a question for you. When did you choose to be straight ? This is a serious question. When did you sit down at the end of you bed and ask yourself "hmmm do i want to be straight or gay?"

NEVER

You just found yourself one day attracted to a girl and thought, wow she is hot. You went home pulled your pub then started pursuing women. Guess what ? That wasn't a choice you made. You just found something about that female sexually arousing and you went after it. You never decided it, it just happened.

[Carlos_E]

[B]I believe that I have always been attracted to the female gender as a man. As far back as can remember, a girl was a facination for me. I believe my recolection takes me back to the 3rd grade. My son whos is in the 1st grade and even in pre-school took a liking to girls.

I believe that it is just the way men and women are made, Like he (God) gave men test and women estrogen.

Here is where your choice theory fails. I believe that I have always been attracted to the male gender as a man. As far back as I can remember, a male was a fascination for me. I believe my recollection takes me back to the 1st grade. I've liked boys when I was in the 1st grade and even in pre-school. You know how kids give cards and gifts for valentines day? When I was in 1st grade I gave cards and gifts for all of the boys, none for the girls. I had my first crush in elementary school on a boy.

I believe that it is just the way I am man, Like he (God) made me this way.

[B]Then there is the point where Gay and Lesbian couples want to raise a family with kids and all. They can't naturally have one together, so they have to manipulate the system and either adopt or Test tube them. Then how will they raise those kids? Will they allow them to have their own outlook on gainess or will their minds be altered?

I have two male friends who have gay parents and both are straight. Having gay parents does not alter your sexuality just as me having straight parents did not alter mine.

[Kale]

I didn't want to go here, but here we go.... A little debate never really hurt anyone, right? Like I said, I don't have anything against gays, I even have a friend that is one and I think he is the coolest person, I just don't understand it.


Yes, I do think that sexuality is a choice. Not so much even a choice, but a fact of life. If you are born with Testosterone, Testicles, and a Penis, you should be looking for someone with Estrogen, Vagina, and a Clitoris.

I believe that I have always been attracted to the female gender as a man. As far back as can remember, a girl was a facination for me. I believe my recolection takes me back to the 3rd grade. My son whos is in the 1st grade and even in pre-school took a liking to girls.

I believe that it is just the way men and women are made, Like he (God) gave men test and women estrogen.

Then there is the point where Gay and Lesbian couples want to raise a family with kids and all. They can't naturally have one together, so they have to manipulate the system and either adopt or Test tube them. Then how will they raise those kids? Will they allow them to have their own outlook on gainess or will their minds be altered?

You seriously believe this statement. ? If so I am flabbergasted by your ignorance dude !!! Why would somebody deliberately choose to be Gay, or in my case Bi-sexual ?

[Carlos_E]

You seriously believe this statement. ? If so I am flabbergasted by your ignorance dude !!! Why would somebody deliberately choose to be Gay, or in my case Bi-sexual ?

I wouldn't consider you bi. I'm not sure what to consider you since you like girly boys. That makes you leaning more towards the straight side because they have female parts.

[DSM4Life]

I wouldn't consider you bi. I'm not sure what to consider you since you like girly boys. That makes you leaning more towards the straight side because they have female parts.

Bi-sexual = confused gay person.

[CeeLo]

You seriously believe this statement. ? If so I am flabbergasted by your ignorance dude !!! Why would somebody deliberately choose to be Gay, or in my case Bi-sexual ?

I have NO idea! People are different and choose to make choices that the person right next to him wouldn't.

Why do some people like to be pissed on? Why do some people rob banks? Why do people jump off brifges to their death? Why do people commit suicide or become suicide bombers? It's all a choice to me when it comes down to it.

I may be wrong and maybe their was a chemical unbalance when they were put together or something, crap, I don't know. It has never been proven one way or the other, has it? Shoot, my wife's female co-worker was straight for 30+ years and had 2 kids and then all of sudden decided to jump the fence and live with a chick! How do you explain that?

As far as bi-sexuals are concerned, they are just having their cake and eating it to! How can you say that they were wired up to like BOTH! I think their imagination got the best of them and they said Let me try to have relations with the same sex and see how it feels.

[DSM4Life]

I have NO idea! People are different and choose to make choices that the person right next to him wouldn't.

Why do some people like to be pissed on? Why do some people rob banks? Why do people jump off brifges to their death? Why do people commit suicide or become suicide bombers? It's all a choice to me when it comes down to it.

I may be wrong and maybe their was a chemical unbalance when they were put together or something, crap, I don't know. It has never been proven one way or the other, has it? Shoot, my wife's female co-worker was straight for 30+ years and had 2 kids and then all of sudden decided to jump the fence and live with a chick! How do you explain that?

As far as bi-sexuals are concerned, they are just having their cake and eating it to! How can you say that they were wired up to like BOTH! I think their imagination got the best of them and they said Let me try to have relations with the same sex and see how it feels.

Easy , society.

Seems like you are a bit out there with your thinking and are a little hard headed so i won't waste my time with it.

[Kale]

I have NO idea! People are different and choose to make choices that the person right next to him wouldn't.

Why do some people like to be pissed on? Why do some people rob banks? Why do people jump off brifges to their death? Why do people commit suicide or become suicide bombers? It's all a choice to me when it comes down to it.

I may be wrong and maybe their was a chemical unbalance when they were put together or something, crap, I don't know. It has never been proven one way or the other, has it? Shoot, my wife's female co-worker was straight for 30+ years and had 2 kids and then all of sudden decided to jump the fence and live with a chick! How do you explain that?

As far as bi-sexuals are concerned, they are just having their cake and eating it to! How can you say that they were wired up to like BOTH! I think their imagination got the best of them and they said Let me try to have relations with the same sex and see how it feels.

Complete garbage !!!! But you are obviously one eyed so I wont bother any more

[DeputyLoneWolf]

I have NO idea! People are different and choose to make choices that the person right next to him wouldn't.

Why do some people like to be pissed on? Why do some people rob banks? Why do people jump off brifges to their death? Why do people commit suicide or become suicide bombers? It's all a choice to me when it comes down to it.

I may be wrong and maybe their was a chemical unbalance when they were put together or something, crap, I don't know. It has never been proven one way or the other, has it? Shoot, my wife's female co-worker was straight for 30+ years and had 2 kids and then all of sudden decided to jump the fence and live with a chick! How do you explain that?

As far as bi-sexuals are concerned, they are just having their cake and eating it to! How can you say that they were wired up to like BOTH! I think their imagination got the best of them and they said Let me try to have relations with the same sex and see how it feels.

Very good post: Whether people want to admit it or not that is not how they are made and they have made a concious desision at one point.

It is very simple gay is not "natural" in any way shape or form. It is very simpe as stated above. I hope that everyone is more mature than to go crying to admin becasue I simply and and nicely voice my opinion. I don't get suspended for just voicing my opinion on this matter.

Also many people turn "gay" as a result of being molested at a very early age.

[Tock]

Ok, I give. Everyone is entitled to have their own opinons. This is a subject that is way to HOT for me to handle. I seem to be out number and I'm jumping ship.

Nope, not too hot to handle, not if you know something about the subject you speak on . . .

As far as I'm concerned, we're glad to have ya chime in on this topic. If you say something intelligent and have corroborating info to back up your points, you'll earn the esteem and affection of everyone between here and Boca Raton. If you merely repeat someone else's half-baked BS, prepare to meet with energetic thumping and revulsion.

I don't have a problem with people who choose to live that life style, but it just aint for me.

What, did another guy propose to you?