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    Quote Originally Posted by Coop77;401***7
    I won't attempt to argue what "God created" or what anybody's religion says about gays, because it doesn't matter. This isn't Iran. We don't have a national religion and religious law.

    When you say "I'm against gay marriage because I'm Christian and God created.. blah blah", you're showing that you don't understand a basic tenet of the US constitution.
    Actually, you don't understand the constitution. There is no right to marriage, because it isn't something the government has POWER to preside over. Marriage is a religious rite and as far as I give a shit anyone can get married. Go marry your sister if it makes you happy.

    However, you can't force people to recognize your marriage if their religion says you can't be married. Religious freedom: Its a bitch when it isn't giving you extra liberties eh?

    The only equitable solution is simple: Eliminate marriage by the government and issue civil unions to ALL. The entire argument is based around the word marriage, which is easily circumvented. Get your civil union license and shack up,then go find someone to marry you whether it be Elvis, a ship captain, a priest, or the Undertaker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Act of God View Post
    Actually, you don't understand the constitution. There is no right to marriage, because it isn't something the government has POWER to preside over. Marriage is a religious rite and as far as I give a shit anyone can get married. Go marry your sister if it makes you happy.

    However, you can't force people to recognize your marriage if their religion says you can't be married. Religious freedom: Its a bitch when it isn't giving you extra liberties eh?

    The only equitable solution is simple: Eliminate marriage by the government and issue civil unions to ALL. The entire argument is based around the word marriage, which is easily circumvented. Get your civil union license and shack up,then go find someone to marry you whether it be Elvis, a ship captain, a priest, or the Undertaker.
    I didn't say there was anything in the constitution about marriage. I was saying that those who think our laws should be based on religious doctrine (which is ultimately what all the anti gay rights arguments come down to) don't understand the importance of separation of church and state.

    I totally agree with everything you said (except for the first sentence of course), and with your solution. The religious element of "marriage" and the necessary government recognition (marriage license) of a domestic partnership for tax benefits, insurance benefits, living will, inheritance, etc.. totally don't mix. When the religious ideals of some clash with the freedoms of others, we have problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coop77 View Post
    I didn't say there was anything in the constitution about marriage. I was saying that those who think our laws should be based on religious doctrine (which is ultimately what all the anti gay rights arguments come down to) don't understand the importance of separation of church and state.

    I totally agree with everything you said (except for the first sentence of course), and with your solution. The religious element of "marriage" and the necessary government recognition (marriage license) of a domestic partnership for tax benefits, insurance benefits, living will, inheritance, etc.. totally don't mix. When the religious ideals of some clash with the freedoms of others, we have problems.
    My bad, I thought you were saying the constitution provides for gay marriage...or any kind of marriage.

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