It's just disrespectful. FoxNews doesn't refer to Bush's wife as "Bush's baby's mama." I'm not going to go as far as to call it racist but it's easy to assume it's because she's Black.
It's just disrespectful. FoxNews doesn't refer to Bush's wife as "Bush's baby's mama." I'm not going to go as far as to call it racist but it's easy to assume it's because she's Black.
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I think it's racist.
I think it's similar to Imus calling the Maryland women's basketball team "nappy-headed hoes." It alludes to race, and is derogatory.
Some of these responses are typical bullshit remarks...
1st of all why didn't Fox news refer to Cindy McCain as McCain's 'baby's mama', or Bill Clinton as Hillary's 'baby daddy? Why? Because those terms are terms used in the Black community. Typical race baiting and either some of you cats are blind or refuse to see it. My guess is the latter!
And don't give me that bullshit about Michelle using a similar term in reference to her husband. We all know there are terms and phrases some communities can use in reference to their own that isn't acceptable for others outside their community to use. And this applies not only to blacks but other communities as well. Is it right? No! But its part of the world we live in.
I dont think that we should every ACCEPT the fact that some words are acceptable for SOME people to use and not OTHERS. That divides people, it does not unite them. It is the same type of principle which is used to segregate people from one another. If minorities and other want EQUALITY, then I advocate that things be TRUELY equal. No WORDS or PHRASES that only "some people" can use while "others" cannot. If black people want to use the "N" word, then everyone should be able to use that word and call one another that. If other groups want to use derrogatory words, then those words should be used freely by ALL people.
I think it is certainly acceptable that if Michelle Obama referrs to herself with ANY type of word, that then others could referr to her as that way as well. What if McCains wife referred to herself as "McCains Old Lady," then I think it would certainly be suitable for Fox News to put in a headline "McCains Old Lady" if she were to appear on the screen. I'm very fed up with this double standard reverse racism bullshit!
I agree with you it is always blah blah you can not do this just because we do. Sure I will accept that as soon as I feel that America tries to stop catering to races just because of their past. Once that race card is thrown white america asks like a baby and heads out.
I agree with you to a point GodFather. There should be no phrases or words off limits. If one group can say it, we all should be able to say it. But lets face reality, that's not how it is, nor will it ever be.
But I disagree with you that its a reverse racism thing. Italians can say derogatory things about themselves, so can Asians, Hispanics, Gays, women (ie the word bitch), etc. It becomes a problem when others outside those groups use those terms that it becomes a problem. So please do try to give the reverse racism crap because it happens across the entire spectrum.
Hey BgMc32, you said that everything Rev. Wright said about this counrty was true!!! Below are just a few of his famous quotes. If you believe these statements are true, your not only anti-American, you have lost your grip on reality. I'm sure there is a nice Communist Counrty out there you can immigrate to, you would be much happier there.
“We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye.”
“We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.” (Sep 2001)
“The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ‘God Bless America.’ NO, no, no, God damn America. That’s in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.” (2003)
“In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared’ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.” (magazine article)
“Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run!…We [in the U.S.] believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.” (sermon)
“Barack knows what it means living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich white people. Hillary would never know that. Hillary ain’t never been called a ******. Hillary has never had a people defined as a non-person.”
“Hillary is married to Bill, and Bill has been good to us. No he ain’t! Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty.” (sermon)
And to think Barrack Hussein Obama sat in that church for 20 years and listened to this anti-American & racist garbage. I'm sure he would make an excellent president????
Last edited by Billy-the-kid; 06-22-2008 at 09:36 AM.
Well spoken!
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This is a rather interesting thread, and although resisting the urge to debate, I just wanted to clear up the misapplied terminology below:
It's true newscasters don't traditionally indulge in racially dominant jargon, but regardless of this neither Hillary nor Cindy could PROPERLY be referred to as a "baby momma" (actual ethnic spelling). This term is used to express limited relationship, which is far less significant than that of a wife, i.e. a wife cannot be a mere baby momma, even if she is estranged and/or no longer a wife (ex-wife) because of the significance of PRIOR relationship. It is very similarly related to the term “bastard”, or a child born out of wedlock.Originally Posted by BgMc31
Some of these responses are typical bullshit remarks...
1st of all why didn't Fox news refer to Cindy McCain as McCain's 'baby's mama', or Bill Clinton as Hillary's 'baby daddy? Why? Because those terms are terms used in the Black community. Typical race baiting and either some of you cats are blind or refuse to see it. My guess is the latter!
And don't give me that bullshit about Michelle using a similar term in reference to her husband. We all know there are terms and phrases some communities can use in reference to their own that isn't acceptable for others outside their community to use. And this applies not only to blacks but other communities as well. Is it right? No! But its part of the world we live in.
Several years ago SI did a cover piece on NBA player's with illegitimate children. Surprisingly, Larry Bird’s picture conspicuously appeared on the cover amid numerous Black hoopers. Bird’s inclusion was not only inaccurately researched, but also incorrectly published. Larry married his HS sweetheart, who gave birth while he was a freshman at IU (prior to transferring to ISU), they later divorced and since the author was unaware of this marriage, and because Larry was estranged from his then ISU basketball playing daughter (daddy's little girl), he was mislabeled a “baby daddy” if you will.
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