relationship advice

[Bojangles69]

to get out of the friend zone you have to truly NOT be her friend. ignore her talk to other girls dont let her know you give a crap about her. if you stop trying and stop caring the chick will fall for you. i know it doesnt sound right, but this works. do the exact opposite of what you would like to do. hey it worked for george costanza!

I agree except for one thing.

Ignoring a girl you like is actively changing your behavoir to elicit a response old behavoir wasn't.
But if he's still outcome dependent at all (on getting the girl end result).

When he DOES get her, the persona/technique fades away as the attributes of his real personality comes through. I've seen guys do this and I never see it work for one reason.

This girl is an anchor for his behavoir.
He prob has stronger feelings for her than he admits (guys usually post threads like this about girls they're obsessed with).
They get together, his old feelings for her come back up and inevitably his old behavoir.

I see it too much. Only thing he needs to do IS not care. But he can't try to not care. He has to wait as long as it takes till he genuinely doesn't. If at anytime he tries to go back, than he cares, and the game is already over.

Theres exceptions to everything but just from what I see this dude needs to realize if he had 10 other hot girls on his side he wouldn't be giving a single fvck about this chick.
So he simply needs to move on, find other girls, realize how naive he was being, and never look back.

[Beefkake31]

I agree except for one thing.

Ignoring a girl you like is actively changing your behavoir to elicit a response old behavoir wasn't.
But if he's still outcome dependent at all (on getting the girl end result).

When he DOES get her, the persona/technique fades away as the attributes of his real personality comes through. I've seen guys do this and I never see it work for one reason.

This girl is an anchor for his behavoir.
He prob has stronger feelings for her than he admits (guys usually post threads like this about girls they're obsessed with).
They get together, his old feelings for her come back up and inevitably his old behavoir.

I see it too much. Only thing he needs to do IS not care. But he can't try to not care. He has to wait as long as it takes till he genuinely doesn't. If at anytime he tries to go back, than he cares, and the game is already over.

Theres exceptions to everything but just from what I see this dude needs to realize if he had 10 other hot girls on his side he wouldn't be giving a single fvck about this chick.
So he simply needs to move on, find other girls, realize how naive he was being, and never look back.

Yup, to add to what I said earlier. You can't act on the other extreme end of the spectrum either. If you ignore her fully, that is obvious as well and that is still a sign that you care.

[thecivilizedanimal]

She's 16, I'm 20
She's 16, I'm 20
She's 16, I'm 20
She's 16, I'm 20
She's 16, I'm 20

[thecivilizedanimal]

She's 16, I'm 20
She's 16, I'm 20
She's 16, I'm 20
She's 16, I'm 20
She's 16, I'm 20

[sugarfreebig]

I would step back a little, look around elsewhere for awhile without acting weird around her. Then down the road if it's meant to be it will happen. You two are at different levels emotionally, or at least should be at different levels. good luck.