PINNACLE..im calling you out...opps

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Define IGF-1...as in rIGF-1 that has clinical studies showing small increases of muscle mass, or LR3 IGF-1 that has zero clinical trails


LR3 has been shown in lab conditions, to be harmful in mice. Actually caused kidney failure. It showed some growth in mice. But what good is it if your a dead mouse? Further, human metabolism is significantly different than that of mice. It's foolish for anyone to say it will in fact work in humans, when science has shown countless times in lab conditions drugs that showed promise in animals had no bearing in human studies conducted. FACT! Any scientist will tell you that.

Bottom line is anyone who says LR3 has had muscle tissue growth has Zero clue about there body and are nothing more than dreamers...wishful thinkers if you will.

Pinnacle

nice post.

I know about the mass gains. But what about the increase in muscle cells, leading to better gains in the future?
Does this not happen?

Maybe you answered this, and Im just not understanding.

lol I don't want to run this anymore. I guess I'm pretty thankful your around haha

[BITTAPART2]

lol, didnt mean for you to take it as a challende PINN. I appreciate your knowledge which is why I wanted to hear more about what you thought about it. I did read an endocrinology study that showed it caused growth in cancerous prostate tissue so I assumed it did have some credability. I believe someone asked you on the other thread what a cheaper more effective GDA would be? Thnx.BITTA

[Pinnacle]

But what about the increase in muscle cells, leading to better gains in the future?
Does this not happen?

With actual rIGF-1 and HGH this happens via satellite cells. No f*cking way with LR3 IGF-1. Not in humans....

Myself along with 2 friends ran multiple experiments that my endocrinologist oversaw. Ranging from frequent blood work done throughout every LR3 cycle, to hydrostatic testing conducting by my sports doctor.
Not one of us gained any muscle tissue on these experiments doses ranging from 60 mcgs per day to 200 mcgs per day.We all followed the same exact diets, and training protocol. Every one of us are competitive bodybuilders at national level, so we do know how to train , eat and know if something works or not. That's a big difference as opposed to some arm chair quarter back sitting on steroid.com all day saying " I think IGF is great". I say to that/those wishful thinkers. Post up pictures to show what you look like after all these great LR3 cycles. You'll never ever see these as*holes posting pictures because they are full of sh*t!

Pinnacle

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

With actual rIGF-1 and HGH this happens via satellite cells. No f*cking way with LR3 IGF-1. Not in humans....

Myself along with 2 friends ran multiple experiments that my endocrinologist oversaw. Ranging from frequent blood work done throughout every LR3 cycle, to hydrostatic testing conducting by my sports doctor.
Not one of us gained any muscle tissue on these experiments doses ranging from 60 mcgs per day to 200 mcgs per day.We all followed the same exact diets, and training protocol. Every one of us are competitive bodybuilders at national level, so we do know how to train , eat and know if something works or not. That's a big difference as opposed to some arm chair quarter back sitting on steroid.com all day saying " I think IGF is great". I say to that/those wishful thinkers. Post up pictures to show what you look like after all these great LR3 cycles. You'll never ever see these as*holes posting pictures because they are full of sh*t!

Pinnacle

Okay, that clears it up. Thanks Pinn.

One more quick question.

Is rIGF-1 and LR3 IGF-1 the same thing?

Thanks again.

[Pinnacle]

Okay, that clears it up. Thanks Pinn.

One more quick question.

Is rIGF-1 and LR3 IGF-1 the same thing?

Thanks again.

rIGF-1 (recombinant Insulin-like Growth Factor) is what scientists altered to make LR3 IGF-1
If that will be all I'll get back to viewing "Teen anal sex" ,which is a Saturday favorite of mine:-)

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

rIGF-1 (recombinant Insulin-like Growth Factor) is what scientists altered to make LR3 IGF-1
If that will be all I'll get back to viewing "Teen anal sex" ,which is a Saturday favorite of mine:-)

lol, your now off the hot seat and free to go.

Have fun


Thanks Pinn

[Narkissos]

rIGF-1 (recombinant Insulin-like Growth Factor) is what scientists altered to make LR3 IGF-1
If that will be all I'll get back to viewing "Teen anal sex" ,which is a Saturday favorite of mine:-)

Hells yea.

-CNS

[bmg]

With actual rIGF-1 and HGH this happens via satellite cells. No f*cking way with LR3 IGF-1. Not in humans....

Myself along with 2 friends ran multiple experiments that my endocrinologist oversaw. Ranging from frequent blood work done throughout every LR3 cycle, to hydrostatic testing conducting by my sports doctor.
Not one of us gained any muscle tissue on these experiments doses ranging from 60 mcgs per day to 200 mcgs per day.We all followed the same exact diets, and training protocol. Every one of us are competitive bodybuilders at national level, so we do know how to train , eat and know if something works or not. That's a big difference as opposed to some arm chair quarter back sitting on steroid.com all day saying " I think IGF is great". I say to that/those wishful thinkers. Post up pictures to show what you look like after all these great LR3 cycles. You'll never ever see these as*holes posting pictures because they are full of sh*t!

Pinnacle

thats pretty awesome. where are your pics posted up at... i did a quick seach and i didnt see any.... and if you dont mind... what regional contest did you win?... pm it to me if youre tring to keep your identity unknown.