i know, like i said tho i'm not looking for REAL steroids because i'm not going to get that deep or serious into it. and if i have to wait till i'm 23 to take the pills or whatever then i am fine with that. the advice with the creatine and no explode, i dont have a problem trying that because i know they both work and i'm only 20, ive never taken the no explode b4, just always see it on the shelf. no other recomendations with it? like a bottle even?