Ok everyone... i know that i might be ok to talk about where to get gear without talking about a source, but i think we should stick to just talking about the gear, not where to have it shipped, or if it is safe to buy online, nothing. No one is going to get anywhere if you cant source check so why even discuse it, just get it from where you get it from and talk about the results or what you want to cycle. This is a tired ass discusion. If you cant find gear or your getting ripped off online, that sucks but too bad this is a forum to get educated