winnie vs. var

[jamyjamjr]

okay guys, heres my next cycle

20ml sust
20ml tren
oral winnie tabs

iv been informed by more experianced guys to drop the winnie for var due to its formidable toxicity..

ill be cutting next cycle stats 6'4 275 bf 23% *rough estimate

So here's the question, what do you guys think of winnie in comparison to var???

Does the good of winnie outweight the bad??? Iv heard it stacks well with tren, is this true???

In other words, if you were to do this next cycle, would you choose winnie or var????

[inky-e]

You gotta detail your proposed cycle bro, don't even know what your dosages are like , and whats up with your PCT?

[jamyjamjr]

ohh okay, my bad...

1/2 ml sust eod

1/2 ml tren eod

50mg winnie vs. 40mg var

pct is your basic clomid run through

question isn't really about the whole cycle its self, its the comparison of win to var, but ill make sure i post up correctly next time

[PT]

at 23% you should be dieting and doing cardio before doing a cycle.

[jamyjamjr]

yea i get that from everyone once in a while, but im gonna have to disagree. i started at over 300lbs, iv gained an easy 15-20lbs mass and have dropped 6 inches on my waist.... i must be doing something right, just gotta keep the diet clean post cycle and stay dedicated...

i'd like to turn the idea of using the help of gear to cut weight away from stigma by becoming the proof of sound judgment, not to be so bold... i take everything you guys say here into consideration, i'd be ignorant not to

[inky-e]

ohh okay, my bad...

1/2 ml sust eod

1/2 ml tren eod

50mg winnie vs. 40mg var

pct is your basic clomid run through

question isn't really about the whole cycle its self, its the comparison of win to var, but ill make sure i post up correctly next time

Not in ml in mg's like this...sust 125mg eod...tren 75mg eod for example.

[PT]

have you ever used any steroids before? if so what kind.

[jamyjamjr]

currently on a sust var cycle

125mg eod sust

30mg var ed

getting great results!!!!

[MercyDog]

yea i get that from everyone once in a while, but im gonna have to disagree. i started at over 300lbs, iv gained an easy 15-20lbs mass and have dropped 6 inches on my waist.... i must be doing something right, just gotta keep the diet clean post cycle and stay dedicated...

i'd like to turn the idea of using the help of gear to cut weight away from stigma by becoming the proof of sound judgment, not to be so bold... i take everything you guys say here into consideration, i'd be ignorant not to

I've gotta agree with this, and I don't have high BF. As long as you change your diet and don't keep eating like what made you fat to begin with. More intense workouts, more cardio, more muscle, higher BP, increased serintonin, a clean diet, higher positive hormone levels, faster metabolism, ect. ect. ect. will not lead to becoming more obese on a cycle. Isn't it just friggin amazing how when we reach the age that our testosterone levels decline we get FAT soo much easier!!

I'm glad you can bash this myth, keep us posted and take some pics. I've seen this over and over again. Its as bad as "there's no scientific evidence that steroids enhance muscle mass, strength, or performance."

[jamyjamjr]

higher rep workouts followed by 45 min cardio 4 days a week and 90min basketball 3 times a week... there no jokin around here guys, im dedicated to the razors edge.. iv been taking pictures, ill post them when i get to my first long term goal