Frontloaded Test E/Tbol cycle

[AcePowerZ]

Total motivation. I was just thinkning cause i Know my shoulders were and still are my weak point. I continued lifting heavy with them seeings how they can take the punishment. They got strong pretty quick lifting heavy.Then once they got some size from the heavy lifting i toned the weight down a little.

[jc95605]

Total motivation. I was just thinkning cause i Know my shoulders were and still are my weak point. I continued lifting heavy with them seeings how they can take the punishment. They got strong pretty quick lifting heavy.Then once they got some size from the heavy lifting i toned the weight down a little.

Well like i mentioned in the log, my shoulders don't really hurt anymore when i do the chest dips. The DB raises are getting easier too. I'm gonna keep on em! Especially with the BB military press. I like that one.

[binder]

Well like i mentioned in the log, my shoulders don't really hurt anymore when i do the chest dips. The DB raises are getting easier too. I'm gonna keep on em! Especially with the BB military press. I like that one.

are you pressing behind the head or in front?

front will work more of the anterior delt along with upper chest due to the nature of the back being arched slightly. behind the head will be more of a lateral delt. both are great so switch them up between workouts. i feel that i can isolate my shoulders more with a behind the head BB press than a front BB press.

[dwaynewade]

i like push presses... you will be able to move more weight this way... practice form before engaging in heavy weight

[jc95605]

are you pressing behind the head or in front?

front will work more of the anterior delt along with upper chest due to the nature of the back being arched slightly. behind the head will be more of a lateral delt. both are great so switch them up between workouts. i feel that i can isolate my shoulders more with a behind the head BB press than a front BB press.

Last time i did in front of the head. On the machine/rack i was on i couldn't do behind. I'm still experimenting with the shoulders so i'll try behind the head and see how that feels. But reguarding what acepower said, i'm pretty sure my shoulders are my weak point. Like i said before for the reminder of the cycle i really wanna blast my chest and shoulders. These two groups are what i wanna see the most size and improvment from.

I was also thinking that i might try and do the DB and BB military press on the same day since the DB seemed to really isolate the traps and the BB is more of a compound lift. What you guys think? Btw, i appreciate you guys's help finding the right excercises for my shoulders.

[binder]

I was also thinking that i might try and do the DB and BB military press on the same day since the DB seemed to really isolate the traps and the BB is more of a compound lift. What you guys think? Btw, i appreciate you guys's help finding the right excercises for my shoulders.

you can do that if you like. I only do one per session though because with all the front, lateral, and rear raises i end up doing quite a few sets on the shoulders. i try to stay below 16 sets per muscle group in my workouts.

also, if you want the chest and shoulders to get bigger you should be hitting the squats, leg press and dead lift. You won't grow up top unless you all total body mass and the way to do that is to increase the legs.

my next build phase starts here in 2 weeks. I'm just doing straight power lifting and mostly concentrating on legs and back. I know once i add a few inches to my legs and strengthen my back then i'll be set to make some huge gains in my upper body.