United Kingdom- Goverment PERMISSION required for parents to kiss children

[thegodfather]

Government Permission Required For Parents To Kiss Children
Quarter of adult population face mandatory "anti-pedophile" test in sweeping expansion of "child protection" measures

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Thursday, June 26, 2008





Sweeping new policies set to be introduced in the UK will mandate parents to get government permission to kiss their children or take them to the swimming pool in public, measures that are "poisoning" relationships between the generations, according to respected sociologist Professor Frank Furedi.

A quarter of the entire adult population of the United Kingdom will be mandated to pass a state check operated by a newly formed government agency to have any physical contact with children under the age of 16 in public - including their own kids.

"From next year the new Independent Safeguarding Authority will require any adult who come into contact with children or vulnerable adults either through their work or in voluntary groups to be vetted," according to a London Telegraph report.

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In a think tank report, Professor Furedi highlighted cases where government checks were already being required by schools and other organizations for parents to merely interact with their own children in public.

In one example, a woman could not kiss her daughter goodbye on a school trip because she had not been vetted.

In another, a mother was surprised to be told by another parent that she and her husband were "CRB checked" when their children played together.

In a third example, a father was given "filthy looks" by a group of mothers when he took his child swimming on his own in "a scene from a Western when the room goes silent and tumbleweed blows across the foreground".

As a result ordinary parents - many of whom are volunteers at sports and social clubs - now find themselves regarded "potential child abusers".

Despite the fact that cases of child abduction in the UK have steadily dropped since the 1970's, government fearmongering and media scare campaigns have created the illusion that pedophiles are roaming around everywhere preying on children. Child abuse numbers are also being artificially inflated by charities like the NSPCC - who were caught faking abuse cases to generate cash donations.

In reality, as we have consistently highlighted, by far the highest ratio of child abuse and pedophilia per head is found in government institutions and other state-run programs tasked with "protecting" children.


In this clip, Alex discusses how a culture of pedophilia permeates government and branches of social services, why sex predators are enabled to conduct their activities by using the instruments of state, with a spotlight on cases of abuse in Texas and the U.S. government's attempts to cover it up.

In America, CPS workers who take children from loving homes and hand them over to child abusers are not even disciplined, while horror stories about the insane actions of Child Protective Services abound.

The CIA and government officials have also been implicated in numerous child sex trafficking rings in the U.S., including a major case that centered around the abduction of Iowa paperboy Johnny Gosch, who vanished without a trace in 1982.

In a recent case, the U.S. State Department was implicated as being involved in a major international child abduction scandal.

On a wider scale, in almost every case of human trafficking for child sex slavery, from Chile to Australia, to Bosnia, to Portugal, to Belgium, court proceedings get shut down or diverted when a clear connection to government officials, politicians and judges arises.

The agenda behind sweeping measures sold as "child protection" is to take away parents' rights and hand them over to the state, as happened in HItler Germany and other dictatorships throughout history.

Once the state gets its hands on your kids, they can mould them into good little Stasi agents who will gleefully inform on you for the most benevolent of actions, such as the use of minor physical discipline, which can easily be deemed "child abuse".

At best power mad control freaks - and at worst child abusers and pedophiles themselves - are crafting laws to dictate how parents can behave around their own children. This is one of the fundamental benchmarks of tyranny and a psychological assault on the very foundation of our society.

[rodgerj]

If that shit is true I am glad I left the UK.....

[NotSmall]

Is "Prison Planet" one of those conspiracy theorist publications by any chance? - Any reports that corroborate this story in any of the british broadsheets?

[soulstealer]

Is "Prison Planet" one of those conspiracy theorist publications by any chance? - Any reports that corroborate this story in any of the british broadsheets?

"Prison Planet" actually reports the news in an attempt to warn you about a string of events..... I love the site and yes you can usually corroborate the stories on their site...

[Panzerfaust]

While all the fools are in denial..they are making such reforms and working around the clock on them.

So keep ignoring this shit people..it will just go away when you ignore it right?

[thegodfather]

Is "Prison Planet" one of those conspiracy theorist publications by any chance? - Any reports that corroborate this story in any of the british broadsheets?

Do you only rely on one perspective/viewpoint for your news? Calling them a 'conspiracy publication' is a total and complete copout and ignorance. Rather if you had said is this an ALTERNATIVE presentation of the news I see on a daily basis, I would have said yes, you are correct. All that Prison Planet does is shows the same news through a different lens to view the world with. I watch CNN, Fox, MSNBC, but I also read the various alternative sites, Infowars,Prison Planet, Etc, to name a few. I like to get a complete picture, as I do not like ANYONE hand picking which way they will spin the news they present to me.

[NotSmall]

Do you only rely on one perspective/viewpoint for your news? Calling them a 'conspiracy publication' is a total and complete copout and ignorance. Rather if you had said is this an ALTERNATIVE presentation of the news I see on a daily basis, I would have said yes, you are correct. All that Prison Planet does is shows the same news through a different lens to view the world with. I watch CNN, Fox, MSNBC, but I also read the various alternative sites, Infowars,Prison Planet, Etc, to name a few. I like to get a complete picture, as I do not like ANYONE hand picking which way they will spin the news they present to me.

Wow, did I touch a nerve?

I didn't call them anything, I asked a question.

You're quite highly strung aren't you?

[GGallin]

Wow talk about BIG BROTHER Illuminatti police state

[Edgar]

they can't stop you from kissing your kids give me a break, some elected asshole put his wife, or retarded brother in charge of this shit or what!!!!

[Flagg]

And all the while the government wants us to be compliant politically correct automatons, feral teenagers are running around towns and cities randomly attacking and often killing people.

[NotSmall]

Relax guys, it is a load of nonsense.

This part will be true:

"From next year the new Independent Safeguarding Authority will require any adult who come into contact with children or vulnerable adults either through their work or in voluntary groups to be vetted," according to a London Telegraph report.

And the vetting is still required if the adult in question has any of their own children in the group - the clumsily written article has simply taken that, twisted it and sensationalised it.

[RA]

It will probably be true at some point. With all the "do gooders" out there who want to tell me how to raise my kids and teach my kids what THEY think is right in school...it could happen.

[thegodfather]

It will probably be true at some point. With all the "do gooders" out there who want to tell me how to raise my kids and teach my kids what THEY think is right in school...it could happen.

LIBERALS.

[Panzerfaust]

It will probably be true at some point. With all the "do gooders" out there who want to tell me how to raise my kids and teach my kids what THEY think is right in school...it could happen.

These people should be eradicated with extreme prejudice IMO. They do nothing but serve to destroy the very fabric of decency and ones freedom to make his/her own decisions in life.

Sure, this might not be true for now but make no mistake about it, everyday they are inching closer and closer to such disastrous reforms.

[Flagg]

It will probably be true at some point. With all the "do gooders" out there who want to tell me how to raise my kids and teach my kids what THEY think is right in school...it could happen.

It is these VERY PEOPLE that are responsible for the huge increase in teenage crime in the UK! Over here we're not allowed to do anything to our children as far as discipline is concerned, and as a result, teenagers dont fear or respect police, authority or their parents. It makes me sick.

[Narkissos]

^^I'm glad I live in the Caribbean.

It is a rational place.. for now.

[shifty_git]

This story is rubbish.... no truth in it at all im afriad...

Certain british papers will publish stuff that isn't true... just as headline grabbers...

I respect what people have said.. but this story is poo.

[joe2009]

i live in england and i have never heard this on the news or in the papers,

[joe2009]

if this law came into affect people would roit worse than in the dark 70s wen thatcher was in charge

[Odpierdol_sie!]

It is these VERY PEOPLE that are responsible for the huge increase in teenage crime in the UK! Over here we're not allowed to do anything to our children as far as discipline is concerned, and as a result, teenagers dont fear or respect police, authority or their parents. It makes me sick.

Two police officers who asked a teenager to pick up some litter she had dropped were attacked by a mob in a suburban high street and punched, kicked, slapped and bitten.

Witnesses said that the two male officers had to use batons to fight off about 30 teenagers who had kicked them to the ground. But two men then joined the attack, one of whom punched an officer in the face, as they shouted insults at the officers.

The extraordinary scene took place in the middle of the afternoon in a high street in Croydon, South London. Local shopkeepers said that the area was plagued by youths and gangs fighting and causing trouble.

The teenager picked up the fast-food wrapper when she was asked – but immediately dropped it on the ground again, the Metropolitan Police said. As the girl and a friend became aggressive towards the officers, a crowd of youths began to grow outside Woolworth’s.
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Laven Karim, 19, who works at a nearby shoe shop, said: “All of a sudden, punches were thrown and all the yobs got involved. The girls were biting and kicking. It was disgusting.”

Witnesses said that the crowd kicked the officers on the ground, and the police responded with batons.

At this point, bystanders joined the attack, telling the officers that they “should not attack little girls”.

Then, “one of these older men punched an officer in the face and knocked him to the ground”, said Adeel Ramjaun, 21, an optician. “The crowd had made a semicircle around the officers. It looked like a gladiatorial ring. They were shouting and swearing at the officer. I was gobsmacked. How often do you see a police officer being punched in the face?”

Witnesses also claimed that at one point police used pepper spray on one of the girls.

Police confirmed yesterday that a 15-year-old girl had been arrested at the scene on suspicion of assault, and had been bailed pending further inquiries. Two men aged 34 and 38, both from South Norwood, were also arrested on suspicion of assault and violent disorder. Police have appealed to the public to assist their inquiries, and detectives were examining closed-circuit television footage.

The two officers, aged 34 and 29, are on sick leave suffering from bruising and knee injuries. The 34-year-old officer required hospital treatment for a bite wound.

Speaking on BBC London Radio yesterday, he said that he had feared for his life and called for urgent assistance as the violence broke out.

He said: “She just threw litter on the floor and we asked if she could pick that up. As we walked away, she threw it at us. Then we went back to talk to her. You don’t arrest these people for such a minor offence; it is a complete waste of time.

“It is just amazing and it depresses you, the state of children today – the disrespect, not only for people who might not be in the police but anyone who is older.”

Yesterday there was minimal police presence in the pedestrianised high street. Groups of teenagers in school uniform could be seen walking up and down at various points throughout the day, despite it being a school day.

Local people claimed that the area was plagued by gangs and that young people could identify which gang a youth was in by the colours they wore and the style of their trainers. Retailers said that they often faced trouble from youths milling around outside shops after school and fighting.

Handrit Kukaj, 21, who works in Aldo clothes store in the high street, said: “We get loads of trouble here, especially on Thursdays, when there is late-night shopping. The main problem is the fighting between the different schools.” Reza Joody, 36, who runs a local shoe shop, said: “The kids do whatever they want around here, stealing and shoplifting. They come in the shop and damage and scratch the shoes. What can we say to them? They’re kids.”

Source: The Times online

[Odpierdol_sie!]

This story is rubbish.... no truth in it at all im afriad...

Certain british papers will publish stuff that isn't true... just as headline grabbers...

I respect what people have said.. but this story is poo.

I aint heard anything about this either. But nothing surprises me anymore. If they imposed this law, it would not shock me what so ever.... it would be like the time last year when some guy got put on a sex offenders register for 10 years for slapping a woman on her arse as she bent over to pick up her hand bag in a night club.
Or this one is loads better......

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/6616245.stm


Nothing surprises me with this place anymore... its the closest place to fvcking cuckoo land on earth.

[UKBoss]

well i have to agree the uk has gone to the dogs! i have 3 boys all who show respect and abide the law,im not some posh git in fact i look like the typr you cross the road fromm but i expect respect and abyde the law as do my kids and expect the same in return! i blame all this crap on the dumb laws and the fact the parents dont do anything to sort their kids out! all i can say is bring on the global warming and lets hope it washs the crap outta england!

[Flagg]

Two police officers who asked a teenager to pick up some litter she had dropped were attacked by a mob in a suburban high street and punched, kicked, slapped and bitten.

Witnesses said that the two male officers had to use batons to fight off about 30 teenagers who had kicked them to the ground. But two men then joined the attack, one of whom punched an officer in the face, as they shouted insults at the officers.

The extraordinary scene took place in the middle of the afternoon in a high street in Croydon, South London. Local shopkeepers said that the area was plagued by youths and gangs fighting and causing trouble.

The teenager picked up the fast-food wrapper when she was asked – but immediately dropped it on the ground again, the Metropolitan Police said. As the girl and a friend became aggressive towards the officers, a crowd of youths began to grow outside Woolworth’s.
Related Links

Laven Karim, 19, who works at a nearby shoe shop, said: “All of a sudden, punches were thrown and all the yobs got involved. The girls were biting and kicking. It was disgusting.”

Witnesses said that the crowd kicked the officers on the ground, and the police responded with batons.

At this point, bystanders joined the attack, telling the officers that they “should not attack little girls”.

Then, “one of these older men punched an officer in the face and knocked him to the ground”, said Adeel Ramjaun, 21, an optician. “The crowd had made a semicircle around the officers. It looked like a gladiatorial ring. They were shouting and swearing at the officer. I was gobsmacked. How often do you see a police officer being punched in the face?”

Witnesses also claimed that at one point police used pepper spray on one of the girls.

Police confirmed yesterday that a 15-year-old girl had been arrested at the scene on suspicion of assault, and had been bailed pending further inquiries. Two men aged 34 and 38, both from South Norwood, were also arrested on suspicion of assault and violent disorder. Police have appealed to the public to assist their inquiries, and detectives were examining closed-circuit television footage.

The two officers, aged 34 and 29, are on sick leave suffering from bruising and knee injuries. The 34-year-old officer required hospital treatment for a bite wound.

Speaking on BBC London Radio yesterday, he said that he had feared for his life and called for urgent assistance as the violence broke out.

He said: “She just threw litter on the floor and we asked if she could pick that up. As we walked away, she threw it at us. Then we went back to talk to her. You don’t arrest these people for such a minor offence; it is a complete waste of time.

“It is just amazing and it depresses you, the state of children today – the disrespect, not only for people who might not be in the police but anyone who is older.”

Yesterday there was minimal police presence in the pedestrianised high street. Groups of teenagers in school uniform could be seen walking up and down at various points throughout the day, despite it being a school day.

Local people claimed that the area was plagued by gangs and that young people could identify which gang a youth was in by the colours they wore and the style of their trainers. Retailers said that they often faced trouble from youths milling around outside shops after school and fighting.

Handrit Kukaj, 21, who works in Aldo clothes store in the high street, said: “We get loads of trouble here, especially on Thursdays, when there is late-night shopping. The main problem is the fighting between the different schools.” Reza Joody, 36, who runs a local shoe shop, said: “The kids do whatever they want around here, stealing and shoplifting. They come in the shop and damage and scratch the shoes. What can we say to them? They’re kids.”

Source: The Times online

Croydon, why does that NOT surprise me!? I used to live there about 10 years ago and it was pretty rough then, now I heard you gotta be suicidal or some impossibly tough guy to walk around on your own. About a year ago I happen to be in Croydon, walking round the shopping center about midday and everyone looked so wound up. You could almost feel the tension in the air. Glad I live in Sussex now.

[Odpierdol_sie!]

Croydon, why does that NOT surprise me!? I used to live there about 10 years ago and it was pretty rough then, now I heard you gotta be suicidal or some impossibly tough guy to walk around on your own. About a year ago I happen to be in Croydon, walking round the shopping center about midday and everyone looked so wound up. You could almost feel the tension in the air. Glad I live in Sussex now.

Posh Fvcker

[Flagg]

I aint heard anything about this either. But nothing surprises me anymore. If they imposed this law, it would not shock me what so ever.... it would be like the time last year when some guy got put on a sex offenders register for 10 years for slapping a woman on her arse as she bent over to pick up her hand bag in a night club.
Or this one is loads better......

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/south_east/6616245.stm


Nothing surprises me with this place anymore... its the closest place to fvcking cuckoo land on earth.

As im going to Uni in September, I do a bit of part-time work doing delivery driving and stuff, we just took on a new guy who happens to be a copper, and he said that last week there were about 30 cops swarming all over East Croydon station. I mean what the **** is happening to this country? This bullshit quest to become "more civilised" by posing all these politically correct rules has unfortunately had the complete opposite effect. These so called "reports" that say crime is lower than its ever been in 10 years but I call bullshit on that. In 10 years I have never known crime as rampant, as abhorant and as sickening as it is now. **** sake, last month 2 french kids were tied to chairs, stabbed over 200 times and set alight. All for a pair of PSP's. England is turning into a shithole.

[Flagg]

Posh Fvcker

It's bliss in sussex, when ever there is a bit of trouble, people round here make such a big deal of it! They have no idea what life is like outside of sussex. It wont be cushy for me much longer, moving down to Southampton in a coupla months for Uni!

[Odpierdol_sie!]

It's bliss in sussex, when ever there is a bit of trouble, people round here make such a big deal of it! They have no idea what life is like outside of sussex. It wont be cushy for me much longer, moving down to Southampton in a coupla months for Uni!

Yeah i know what you mean. I lived in the hills for years..... ill be back where i belong one day. This big city life will get to me eventually.

[Odpierdol_sie!]

As im going to Uni in September, I do a bit of part-time work doing delivery driving and stuff, we just took on a new guy who happens to be a copper, and he said that last week there were about 30 cops swarming all over East Croydon station. I mean what the **** is happening to this country? This bullshit quest to become "more civilised" by posing all these politically correct rules has unfortunately had the complete opposite effect. These so called "reports" that say crime is lower than its ever been in 10 years but I call bullshit on that. In 10 years I have never known crime as rampant, as abhorant and as sickening as it is now. **** sake, last month 2 french kids were tied to chairs, stabbed over 200 times and set alight. All for a pair of PSP's. England is turning into a shithole.

I was contemplating a chance of jobs (well i always am), but i saw that the Met was recruiting so i went along to one of their induction day events.... what a pile of dog wank. in the 2 or so hours i was there i had to sit and listen to how good the Met is, how highly regarded they are around the world... are the best in the UK have the best resources etc..... i was like yea ok. Through out the whole thing they said the fun of the job the rewards in salary etc.... not once did they mention report writing for EVERYTHING.

I have a friend who joined the Met years ago... he jacked when they introduced the PACE act because he said it was BS and he would end up in jail for beating people etc.

ANYWAY.... i sat there and endured this torture having made my mind up in teh first 15 minutes.
They also dropped a massive clanger...... they were telling us the fitness requirements.... how hard and grueling it is, then they topped it off with saying you have to get 5.2 on the bleep test. my jaw hit the floor.... i mean really.... 5.2???? a guy with one leg and piles could do that!

At the close, i went up an thanked the HR guy for inviting me... but told him im not going to be submitting an application to join and have decided to stay in the Brigade until something better comes along, he said "fair enough, all the best". I then got the fcuk out of there!
29k a year? fvck that you would have to offer alot more than that for me to sell my soul.


also, i was a minority in that room. Out of about 250 people there were probably 50 who were native to this land.... shame it wasn't winter, i could have put my scarf on my head to try n blend in.

[Flagg]

I was contemplating a chance of jobs (well i always am), but i saw that the Met was recruiting so i went along to one of their induction day events.... what a pile of dog wank. in the 2 or so hours i was there i had to sit and listen to how good the Met is, how highly regarded they are around the world... are the best in the UK have the best resources etc..... i was like yea ok. Through out the whole thing they said the fun of the job the rewards in salary etc.... not once did they mention report writing for EVERYTHING.

I have a friend who joined the Met years ago... he jacked when they introduced the PACE act because he said it was BS and he would end up in jail for beating people etc.

ANYWAY.... i sat there and endured this torture having made my mind up in teh first 15 minutes.
They also dropped a massive clanger...... they were telling us the fitness requirements.... how hard and grueling it is, then they topped it off with saying you have to get 5.2 on the bleep test. my jaw hit the floor.... i mean really.... 5.2???? a guy with one leg and piles could do that!

At the close, i went up an thanked the HR guy for inviting me... but told him im not going to be submitting an application to join and have decided to stay in the Brigade until something better comes along, he said "fair enough, all the best". I then got the fcuk out of there!
29k a year? fvck that you would have to offer alot more than that for me to sell my soul.


also, i was a minority in that room. Out of about 250 people there were probably 50 who were native to this land.... shame it wasn't winter, i could have put my scarf on my head to try n blend in.

I tried to join the police a few years back, and even though im sure this will draw flames, but if you are a straight white male, your chances of becoming a cop are extremely slim. And like you said, what actual powers do cops have now adays? I know they are gonna be armed with tazers...just wait for the first "horror story" from a newspaper, probably The Mail, depicting how brutal tazer guns are.

By the way did you find out about Open University or whatever it was you was planning on doing?

[UKBoss]

lol nothing wrong with croydon???i was born there but we moved to a place called thetford and i grow up on an estate called abby farm,it had the reputation as one of the roughest places in britain?? makes me laugh as there was no crime on the estate ,,,,,probly cos no one dare to but all the same kids were safe on the streets !

[Odpierdol_sie!]

By the way did you find out about Open University or whatever it was you was planning on doing?

i looked in to doing architecture, but its a bit of a side step from what ive been studying the last few years.... Ive being doing distance learning in computer networking (been doing it when i get the chance in work).
I cant decide what i want to do really. on one hand id love to know more about architecture etc.... but the same in IT. Since ive been doing IT for 3 years i think its better i stick to my guns for now.
Also i have kinda set myself a challenge since being back home in wales a few months ago. While im still young enough and living not far away from the barack in kensington, ive been thinking of transferring to an office job in the brigade so i can have a crack at joining the 21 SAS or the 18 signals regiment, get me out in the hills etc and probably have alot of use for my IT knowledge.

Really dont know though... have to see how my fitness recovers from measles.... not started training proper since my stay in hospital.

[RA]

You wouldnt catch me doing that job without a gun.

I tried to join the police a few years back, and even though im sure this will draw flames, but if you are a straight white male, your chances of becoming a cop are extremely slim. And like you said, what actual powers do cops have now adays? I know they are gonna be armed with tazers...just wait for the first "horror story" from a newspaper, probably The Mail, depicting how brutal tazer guns are.

By the way did you find out about Open University or whatever it was you was planning on doing?