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    bro. your 24. 250mgs test will not do any muscle gains for you. you will be shut down. at your age i bet you are producing about 200mgs of test e a week natrually. taking 50mgs more is a waste. i agree on sticking at a low dose in the beging. so maybe take your injections e4d.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 200byjune View Post
    bro. your 24. 250mgs test will not do any muscle gains for you. you will be shut down. at your age i bet you are producing about 200mgs of test e a week natrually. taking 50mgs more is a waste. i agree on sticking at a low dose in the beging. so maybe take your injections e4d.
    i think natural production is around 70mg a week, maybe 100 max. your body doesn't make "test e" as there is no way for your body to make the enanthate ester.. 250 will build SOME muscle, but yes, still shut you down.

    and i got the 70% efficiency from another thread, so i'm not positive on that. thats a ballpark estimate

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    What do you mean by "shut you down"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gdupm6 View Post
    What do you mean by "shut you down"?
    that it will shut down your natural testosterone production. almost all steroids do it, test takes a little longer than some, especially at that dose, but over 12 weeks it happens. thats why you need a pct to bring it back up to normal as fast as possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post
    i think natural production is around 70mg a week, maybe 100 max. your body doesn't make "test e" as there is no way for your body to make the enanthate ester.. 250 will build SOME muscle, but yes, still shut you down.

    and i got the 70% efficiency from another thread, so i'm not positive on that. thats a ballpark estimate
    ya everyone is different. and no shit your body doesnt make an ester. test e has 70mgs of test per 100 mgs because 30mgs is the ester. 70+70=140. he produced around the much at that age. you run 250 and waster your money. i dont want this kid to spend $70 and gain 5 pounds over 12 weeks. i did not say 500mgs. it would be more like 433mgs. if you did that 20mls should last you the full 12 weeks. do what you want but im just giving you honest information that will lead to you recieving better results and making you a happier person..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 200byjune View Post
    ya everyone is different. and no shit your body doesnt make an ester. test e has 70mgs of test per 100 mgs because 30mgs is the ester. 70+70=140. he produced around the much at that age. you run 250 and waster your money. i dont want this kid to spend $70 and gain 5 pounds over 12 weeks. i did not say 500mgs. it would be more like 433mgs. if you did that 20mls should last you the full 12 weeks. do what you want but im just giving you honest information that will lead to you recieving better results and making you a happier person..
    haha well you made it sound like your body was producing test e. i agree on the ester weight part, but still, 175mg of test (250mg test e) is more than double your natural test, which, like stated above, is around 70-80mg a week MAX. some lucky people might get 100, but thats an extreme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T_Own View Post
    haha well you made it sound like your body was producing test e. i agree on the ester weight part, but still, 175mg of test (250mg test e) is more than double your natural test, which, like stated above, is around 70-80mg a week MAX. some lucky people might get 100, but thats an extreme.
    hes young. remember thats the average for an adult.

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    yes he is young thats why his test lvs would be at the highest...

    just rough estimate.....

    but usually ur test lvs are higher around your teens to mid twenties.. and late twenties to mid 30s it plateaus ... after 40s test lvs slowly decrease.. so in this case t_town would be right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 200byjune View Post
    bro. your 24. 250mgs test will not do any muscle gains for you. you will be shut down. at your age i bet you are producing about 200mgs of test e a week natrually. taking 50mgs more is a waste. i agree on sticking at a low dose in the beging. so maybe take your injections e4d.
    umm.. i dont think thats true... im pretty sure its not... you prodce 10-12mg a day... so 250 is good enough..
    Last edited by scribbs12; 07-23-2008 at 05:47 PM.

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    Why you gotta be pullin your pants down? You're gonna be teasin a few guys here! jk lol I'm not one of them. Its my understanding that injected winnie is less toxic than oral. I've shot it with just a little discomfort, got tight as fukk.

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