What kind of cycle would a weightlifter or gymnast use?

[T_Own]

i don't think many gymnasts use the roids, they are just JACKED from doing that stuff all day. if you've ever tried it its very hard..

lifting could be anything.. halo is common for good strength gains, but it could be a lot of things

[Teras]

i don't think many gymnasts use the roids, they are just JACKED from doing that stuff all day. if you've ever tried it its very hard..

lifting could be anything.. halo is common for good strength gains, but it could be a lot of things

Oh come on, if it was true we would all quit lifting and jump in the rings right away... There got to me more than that. It's a whole, diet, lifting, drugs... All parts are equally important.

[xero]

Oh come on, if it was true we would all quit lifting and jump in the rings right away... There got to me more than that. It's a whole, diet, lifting, drugs... All parts are equally important.

I very much doubt that any of the seriously competitive gymnasts cycle. The intensity of their training combined with exceptional genetic disposition is the thing.

You can diet, lift and cycle all you want, but unless you have the genetics, you will not get into the class of an avaerage olympic gymnast.

[Teras]

I very much doubt that any of the seriously competitive gymnasts cycle. The intensity of their training combined with exceptional genetic disposition is the thing.

You can diet, lift and cycle all you want, but unless you have the genetics, you will not get into the class of an avaerage olympic gymnast.

That's very naive. All top olympic athletes use. Why wouldn't they if they know how to do it without testing positive?? Drugs on top of the best genetic in the world will always yield a better athlete than the best genetic in the world without drugs...

There are too many example in track and field alone to not be aware that a lot of them know how to use illegal drugs without getting caught.

[xero]

That's very naive. All top olympic athletes use. Why wouldn't they if they know how to do it without testing positive?? Drugs on top of the best genetic in the world will always yield a better athlete than the best genetic in the world without drugs...

There are too many example in track and field alone to not be aware that a lot of them know how to use illegal drugs without getting caught.

Cant agree with you.

Yes, olympic level track&field atheletes definitely use, no doubt, probably even the majority. This is obvious if you look at the proportionally high number that do get caught. They are certainly not getting away with it. There have been many very high profile failures in the last two years alone.

Gymasts are subject to same IOC testing conditions and very seldomly is there a case of test failure.

IMO the large majority of gymnasts musculature have very litle if anything to do with juice and a lot to do with many years of exceptionlly dedicated and specialized training.

[T_Own]

Oh come on, if it was true we would all quit lifting and jump in the rings right away... There got to me more than that. It's a whole, diet, lifting, drugs... All parts are equally important.

talk about naive.. it takes YEARS to look like that. in russia, girls are taken to gymnast schools as kids, and train for 10-15 years. so yes, you could put down the weights and jump in the rings, but 10 years later you might look like that.

it might be true that more track athletes use steroids than other sports, but they still get tested after every major race. so that doesn't leave much time to get things out of their system. steroids or not, there is a definite outside factor adding in, which is good genes, hard work and dedication, otherwise the winner of the olympics would just be who can buy the most steroids...

[Teras]

talk about naive.. it takes YEARS to look like that. in russia, girls are taken to gymnast schools as kids, and train for 10-15 years. so yes, you could put down the weights and jump in the rings, but 10 years later you might look like that.

it might be true that more track athletes use steroids than other sports, but they still get tested after every major race. so that doesn't leave much time to get things out of their system. steroids or not, there is a definite outside factor adding in, which is good genes, hard work and dedication, otherwise the winner of the olympics would just be who can buy the most steroids...

Oh yeah totally agree. I don't take anything away from them, by no means. The drugs will do nothing without the proper dedication, consistency, smart training and so one. I know what I had to go through to look how I look and it was only after 2 cycles, it does take years of natural training even with good genetics.
I'm not saying the drugs make the athlete, like Tate said: "I have a vial of test standing on my desk and I've never seen it lift a single plate..." But it does give you an edge. Look at Marion Jones she admittedly took EPO, THG, HGH and slin since '99, yet she NEVER tested positive. She underwent hundreds of controls... Not once she tested positive. So if they know they can take without being caught, why wouldn't they?