Fighter Rankings

[WARMachine]

i would like to see faber fight some better people (ufc) i know he would have to move up in weight, but they play him off as the great 145 in wec, knocking out everyone, but goes 5 rounds vs jens pulver, and didn't look that good imo. and bj penn dominated pulver after ultimate fighter. even if you put him on the list, i wouldn't put him too high. i'd put money on sherk > faber

i agree with most of yours, i don't think forest is really the best at 205. maybe rampage or shogun rua.

i think brandon vera should be around 7-8 in the heavyweights. he hasn't been huge, but he's done well for the most part. maybe moving to 205, but still won a couple at heavy (like beating mir)

i like the 170, especially putting koscheck above hughes haha. 85s are good too

The thing about Faber, is he is a small 145er, the guy is just plain little...

"i agree with most of yours, i don't think forest is really the best at 205. maybe rampage or shogun rua. "
its funny you say that, cause Forrest beat BOTH of them... So for now, hes #1 on EVERYBODYS list... And Kos has come a long way, beating Diego and giving GSP a good fight...

Pretty good rankings I agree for the most part

Only things I would change:

HW:I would probably put put Timmy at 5 and Arlovski at 6. I'm a huge Mirko fan but I would take him out and replace him with Herring.

LHW: I would have Machida#3 than shogun-4 Chuck-5 Move Wandy-6 Thiago-7 Rashad Evans -8 Lil Nog - 9 Soko - 10

MW: Lindland-5 even though his last performance wasn't to impressive I think it might have been ring rust
Yushin-6 and Lawler-7, take out Grergard(win over Kang was huge but dont think hes top 10 yet) and replace him with Jacare
Honorouble mention to Dennis Kang, and Mayhem

WW: I'd put Carlos-6 Hughes-7 Diego-8 Karo-9 Serra-10

LW: I'd take out Shaolin and Frankie and put in Kawajiri and either Gilbert or winner of Kenny and Huerta

HW: Well AA beat Werdum and Ben Rothwell, and Jake Obrian(whos beat Herring) so i had to put him above Sylvia because he has lost 3 of his last five, (granted against the top HWs in the world but still)...

Vera isn't a top 10 HW any more he dropped two in a row no matter how conterversial his loss to Fabricio was, or if he broke his hand in the Timmy fight a loss is still a loss. He beat Mir almost 2 yrs ago when Mir wasnt even ranked so that doesn't really mean much today.

Perfectly put brother!!! That takes care of Vera, personally, the guy talks and doesnt deliver, hes worst than Tito...


LHW: Machida, he hasnt beaten anyone i think was that impressive... yeah Tito,(when was the last time Tito was a top ten guy? 5 years?) and Soko, if Machida gets in the top five for beating Soko, then Teixeira should be too, because he straight killed Soko... (same thing Chuck said on Machida)

Shogun has only lost 3 times in his career, one to the current champ and #1 205er, another due to a freak injury, and one very early in his career... So hes #3, and Chuck is behind him cause of 2 losses to Page and Shoguns destruction of Page....
(Evans, the same thing as Machida, went to a DRAW with Tito, he couldnt even beat him, and beat Bisping, now a 185er... Not top ten worthy....)

MW: Lindland hasnt lost to a 185er in 4 years, the guy is so good, he fights above his weight class all the time (Page, and Fedor) and Gegard has beat Kang and Yoon, Jarcare (though im a HUGE fan of his) has only beaten Miller... So, Mousasi has to be ahead of him, but it doesnt matter cause they will fight soon anyway...()

Lawler beat Trigg, Villasenor, Rua and Smith, all by KO too, hes top 5, though just barley...

WW: Hughes is a legend, and still has a fight in him so hes in caise hes only been beat by GSP, and Alves, who is top 3.

As much as i like Carlos, he just hasnt beat top guys, not his fault though, in his biggest fight against Shields he lost pretty easily, though Jake couldt finish him.

As for Serra, im sorry but who has he beat? Lets face it people 999/1000, GSP wins that fight, not taking anything anyway from Serra, he won fair and square, but he hasnt done anything else, IF he beats Hughes, hell be top 6 or 7 for sure...

LW: You know i was SO CLOSE to puttin Kawajiri in there, i really was, and i think ill revise after this and remove Edgar, but Kawajiri LOST to Vitor, kinda hard to put him in, Gilbert lost to Thompson (and Ishida who lost to Vitor, which is why Vitor is in there on top of the Kawajiri win.) and as far as Kenny goes, he is on a tear, has fought for the title and if he beats Roger, hes in for sure...

As for Roger, im not impressed, i think hes a UFC made fighter, who has been hand fead guys for 2 years now... I dont see him getting past KenFlo, but if he does, hes #9 or 10.

Anyway, just my justifications for why people are where they are. Still disagree?

[rush_604]

The thing about Faber, is he is a small 145er, the guy is just plain little...

"i agree with most of yours, i don't think forest is really the best at 205. maybe rampage or shogun rua. "
its funny you say that, cause Forrest beat BOTH of them... So for now, hes #1 on EVERYBODYS list... And Kos has come a long way, beating Diego and giving GSP a good fight...





HW: Well AA beat Werdum and Ben Rothwell, and Jake Obrian(whos beat Herring) so i had to put him above Sylvia because he has lost 3 of his last five, (granted against the top HWs in the world but still)...



Perfectly put brother!!! That takes care of Vera, personally, the guy talks and doesnt deliver, hes worst than Tito...


LHW: Machida, he hasnt beaten anyone i think was that impressive... yeah Tito,(when was the last time Tito was a top ten guy? 5 years?) and Soko, if Machida gets in the top five for beating Soko, then Teixeira should be too, because he straight killed Soko... (same thing Chuck said on Machida)

Shogun has only lost 3 times in his career, one to the current champ and #1 205er, another due to a freak injury, and one very early in his career... So hes #3, and Chuck is behind him cause of 2 losses to Page and Shoguns destruction of Page....
(Evans, the same thing as Machida, went to a DRAW with Tito, he couldnt even beat him, and beat Bisping, now a 185er... Not top ten worthy....)

MW: Lindland hasnt lost to a 185er in 4 years, the guy is so good, he fights above his weight class all the time (Page, and Fedor) and Gegard has beat Kang and Yoon, Jarcare (though im a HUGE fan of his) has only beaten Miller... So, Mousasi has to be ahead of him, but it doesnt matter cause they will fight soon anyway...()

Lawler beat Trigg, Villasenor, Rua and Smith, all by KO too, hes top 5, though just barley...

WW: Hughes is a legend, and still has a fight in him so hes in caise hes only been beat by GSP, and Alves, who is top 3.

As much as i like Carlos, he just hasnt beat top guys, not his fault though, in his biggest fight against Shields he lost pretty easily, though Jake couldt finish him.

As for Serra, im sorry but who has he beat? Lets face it people 999/1000, GSP wins that fight, not taking anything anyway from Serra, he won fair and square, but he hasnt done anything else, IF he beats Hughes, hell be top 6 or 7 for sure...

LW: You know i was SO CLOSE to puttin Kawajiri in there, i really was, and i think ill revise after this and remove Edgar, but Kawajiri LOST to Vitor, kinda hard to put him in, Gilbert lost to Thompson (and Ishida who lost to Vitor, which is why Vitor is in there on top of the Kawajiri win.) and as far as Kenny goes, he is on a tear, has fought for the title and if he beats Roger, hes in for sure...

As for Roger, im not impressed, i think hes a UFC made fighter, who has been hand fead guys for 2 years now... I dont see him getting past KenFlo, but if he does, hes #9 or 10.

Anyway, just my justifications for why people are where they are. Still disagree?

Ya those are all valid reasons you gave. I agree with some and not with some. I guess I'm biased towards some fighters though. Pretty hard to disagree with most of your rankings. I guess we just have a differnce of opinion on some fighters.