Test E Cycle question

[PrinceAlbert]

Before I start, I'm just going to answer the basic questions that i know are going to be asked right of the bat, even though they do not pertain to my question.

Age - 22
Height 5'10"
Weight - 167
bf% - 14

Ok, this isn't my first cycle, but this is my first real dilemma. I have accumulated all the stuff i need for my next cycle, including my PCT needs (thank you Lion, once again), but my concern as of right now is my Test. My guy whom I normally get my gear from gave me Test E from two different companies. One, reputable, and one that doesn't seem so, but he said that its decent. Ok, the reputable vials are 300 mg/ml, and the not so much vials are 250 mg/ml. I was thinking about staggering the dosages as follows.

Week 1 - 6 at 750 mg/week (one shot of 375mg/1.5ml every 3 days)
Week 7 - 16 at 600mg/week (one shot of 300mg/1ml every 3 days)
Week 17 at 500 mg (two shots of 250 mg/1ml)

Yes, i know that shooting every 3 days lowers it total time to 14.5 weeks, but for the sake of conveying, i just did it by week.

My questions are:
1) Will lowering the dosage throughout my cycle hinder gains?
2) Do you think that the starting dose of 750 mg/week is too high? I've never gone this high before.

Any input/critique would be much appreciated.

[PT]

what was the dose of your last cycle and how were your gains? i would pick a steady dose and keep it there the entire cycle instead of jumping around. you dont want your blood levels jumping around that much. 17 weeks is a long time bro so you might want to drop that to 14. if your diet is good you should see some really nice gains but if your diet isnt up to par you'll be lucky to gain anything

[PrinceAlbert]

Well, with how I have the injections spaced out, the total time is 14.5 weeks. The highest I've ever gone on cycle is 600mg/week, and the gains were decent.

My biggest concern is whether or not lowering the dosage steadily like that so that I'm able to utilize all the vials to their full potential will hinder my gains.

[PT]

its early so maybe its me but im not reading you here. why would you lower the dosage in order to utilize the full potential? just stick with 600mgs a week every week

[PrinceAlbert]

Its because of the two different concentrations. I have two vials that are dosed at 300mg/ml, and two vials that are dosed at 250mg/ml. My plan was to use the 250 mg/ml vials first with 1.5 ml injections. When I'm down to 1 ml per vial, then I go over to the 300mg/ml vials for 10 weeks, then finish up with those last 2ml dosed at 250mg/ml.

[PT]

that dosnt matter bro, test is test.

[PrinceAlbert]

I know, i just want to keep a somewhat equal concentration in by body throughout, but i'm not sure as to how to do that with the two different concentrations. Thats why i came up with that declining dosage deal.

[PT]

simple math my friend. say you have 2 bottles, 1 is 250mgs/ml and the other is 300mgs/ml you just figure out how much of each you need to do 600mgs a week or whatever you want to take. obviously you take 2cc's of the 300mgs/ml to get your 600 of the one and you take a little less then 2.5cc's of the other. you can also do 1cc of each per week if you have the same amount of bottles. for example you can take 1cc of your 300mgs/ml on sunday and 1cc of your 250mgs/ml on wednesday

[one8nine]

Before I start, I'm just going to answer the basic questions that i know are going to be asked right of the bat, even though they do not pertain to my question.

Age - 22
Height 5'10"
Weight - 167
bf% - 14

and thats AFTER cycling?

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=344896
i think the fact that you have a terrible diet and a high bodyfat is relevant. you need not cycle at all until you learn to eat and get to a respectable bf%. which is 12% or less which i considder very generous.

[PrinceAlbert]

and thats AFTER cycling?

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=344896
i think the fact that you have a terrible diet and a high bodyfat is relevant. you need not cycle at all until you learn to eat and get to a respectable bf%. which is 12% or less which i considder very generous.

And like i said before, that doesn't pertain to my question. The reason that this is where i'm at right now is because in August of last year I got hit by a car. I was in the hospital until October (just getting out in time for my birthday...lucky me...) I was in physical therapy until this past April learning how to be able to walk and twist my body without pain again. Needless to say i was in a little bit of a mild depression... But, like i said...this has nothing to do with my question... This is my first time back in the game in about a year and 7 months.

Anyway...

simple math my friend. say you have 2 bottles, 1 is 250mgs/ml and the other is 300mgs/ml you just figure out how much of each you need to do 600mgs a week or whatever you want to take. obviously you take 2cc's of the 300mgs/ml to get your 600 of the one and you take a little less then 2.5cc's of the other. you can also do 1cc of each per week if you have the same amount of bottles. for example you can take 1cc of your 300mgs/ml on sunday and 1cc of your 250mgs/ml on wednesday

Ok, to get 300mg out of the 250's i'd have to inject 1.2ml. I'd rather do it like that than going 300 then 250 each week. Would that be better than just staggering it down like i had it, because i was thinking that staggering it would help slightly later with PCT, but i'm not too sure.

[Flex-Appeal]

if i were you i would wait and put a little more natty lean muscle mass on you while decreasing bf %'s.

[one8nine]

i sincerely appologize. i was very rude and i just assumed. i actually got hit by a car a few months ago and im 173 10% at 6'3". i was 215 7% when i got hit and i got down to 159 at one point. im very sorry.

being we are in very similar situations, ill let you know what my plan is personally, maybe this will help you some.

because of my injuries im scared to jump right back on but would still like some help. i cant lift for another 2-3 months (and those are hopeful numbers). when i can, i plan to start on a light 40mg ed var cycle for 4 weeks, then switch to test/tren/masteron.

[one8nine]

Ok, to get 300mg out of the 250's i'd have to inject 1.2ml. I'd rather do it like that than going 300 then 250 each week. Would that be better than just staggering it down like i had it, because i was thinking that staggering it would help slightly later with PCT, but i'm not too sure.

you are better off sticking to one dose. by pct time youll be shut down just the same no matter what your dose, best to keep blood levels stable

[Browns4Life86]

Raising and lowering dosages during a cycle does nothing. It is so much better for your gains just to keep your Test at 500 or 600mg each and every week. Otherwise your body will have to keep adjusting itself and that hurts your muscle development.

[Jfew44]

I would just inject once a week from each different kind. That would make it 550mg of test a week, which given your current state should be fine. I'm saying this assuming that the 250mg/ml vials are legit.

[one8nine]

I would just inject once a week from each different kind. That would make it 550mg of test a week, which given your current state should be fine. I'm saying this assuming that the 250mg/ml vials are legit.

that was actually the most intelligent post on this thread

[Jfew44]

^^ I get one every once in awhile lol

[PrinceAlbert]

i sincerely appologize. i was very rude and i just assumed. i actually got hit by a car a few months ago and im 173 10% at 6'3". i was 215 7% when i got hit and i got down to 159 at one point. im very sorry.

being we are in very similar situations, ill let you know what my plan is personally, maybe this will help you some.

because of my injuries im scared to jump right back on but would still like some help. i cant lift for another 2-3 months (and those are hopeful numbers). when i can, i plan to start on a light 40mg ed var cycle for 4 weeks, then switch to test/tren/masteron.

its all good man...thank you for your input though.

you are better off sticking to one dose. by pct time youll be shut down just the same no matter what your dose, best to keep blood levels stable

thats what i was thinking too, but i'm still wondering.

Raising and lowering dosages during a cycle does nothing. It is so much better for your gains just to keep your Test at 500 or 600mg each and every week. Otherwise your body will have to keep adjusting itself and that hurts your muscle development.

its not raising and lowering. its a steady decline. 750 to 600 to 500

I would just inject once a week from each different kind. That would make it 550mg of test a week, which given your current state should be fine. I'm saying this assuming that the 250mg/ml vials are legit.

i was thinking about that as an option as well, but i just want more input. i'm not sure if the 250's are legit.