Newbie need a little help.

[football3355]

imo he is not ready. he has a lot of natty growth left in him.

i thought 20 would be when you're done growing?.......

[daem]

i thought 20 would be when you're done growing?.......

What he meant was natural growth potential with clean diet and training. 6' 170 is NOT a good base @ 14% bf.

He should think of getting up to at least 190 before he thinks of using steroids...170 at 6ft is a string bean.

Tell him to start eating more and to revisit the decision when he's a couple years older at a lower bodyfat and higher weight.