is mass directly related to strength, torque, and power?

[T_Own]

more doesn't always make it better, and since tren might be the strongest steroid (in certain aspects) not much other stuff will help. anavar is quality, hard gains.

[football3355]

more doesn't always make it better, and since tren might be the strongest steroid (in certain aspects) not much other stuff will help. anavar is quality, hard gains.

i completely understand man, quality over quantity any day. But just out of curiosity, would running a cycle with tren overlapped by var quality out the gains lol sort to speak?

[Bjohnson]

Tren is an advanced level steroid that needs to be run with test. Thats 3 substances you would looking at on your first cycle and tren is a tricky one. The complications would probably be way more than you are ready to deal with.

[football3355]

Tren is an advanced level steroid that needs to be run with test. Thats 3 substances you would looking at on your first cycle and tren is a tricky one. The complications would probably be way more than you are ready to deal with.

yup completely, that's why I plan not to take it for a long while, just curious. I love learning more and more about the anabolic world as possible. I am looking at Tren info on the profiles here, and it says its anabolic/adrogenic ratio is one of the most powerful ever created. 5x more anabolic than test and binds amazingly to the androgen receptors. No wonder john1181 said he has already had his bench go up 40kilos in week 4! BTW, why does Tren have to be ran with Test?