All Out Strength: Halotestin vs Tren

[football3355]

Extremely curious, all the talk about Tren being one of the best aas ever created, but in terms of strength: is it better than Halotestin? I know Halo is used primarily for strength, but which would skyrocket your strength better?

[powerliftmike]

Halo for just strength. tren will have more dramatic effects on the physique tho

[one8nine]

Halo for just strength. tren will have more dramatic effects on the physique tho

#2 this^^

imo 1-10

tren-
cut/size: 8
strength: 8

halo-
cut/size: 3
strength: 10

[football3355]

#2 this^^

imo 1-10

tren-
cut/size: 8
strength: 8

halo-
cut/size: 3
strength: 10

sounds good thanks for the info. I am going to take Halo with test prop in a cycle for lean muscle gain (~10lbs) but mostly for HUGE strength gains. I need it for the upcoming baseball season. Plan on running Halo for the first 4 weeks of the cycle and then just continue to run test prop for a total of 10 weeks.

Halo: wk 1-4
test prop: wk 1-10

this sound good? I am not 100% sure this is the correct place in the cycle to put Halo, but it makes sense. Any critique is greatly appreciated guys!

[one8nine]

sounds good thanks for the info. I am going to take Halo with test prop in a cycle for lean muscle gain (~10lbs) but mostly for HUGE strength gains. I need it for the upcoming baseball season. Plan on running Halo for the first 4 weeks of the cycle and then just continue to run test prop for a total of 10 weeks.

Halo: wk 1-4
test prop: wk 1-10

this sound good? I am not 100% sure this is the correct place in the cycle to put Halo, but it makes sense. Any critique is greatly appreciated guys!

i like it
run test longer to help solidify the halo gains

[football3355]

i like it
run test longer to help solidify the halo gains

awsome thanks. Heres what I am thinking:

wk 1-4 halo
wk 1-12 test prop

sound good?

BTW is Halo the steroid that will make you the strongest out of ALL steroids period? like no matter how many steroids i tried over time, would halo be the one i get the most strength gains from?

[Bigmax]

Tren bro...IMO anyway...used Halo but felt more on how hard i got in terms of the look...Then again individuality will show different views.

[powerliftmike]

Extremely curious, all the talk about Tren being one of the best aas ever created, but in terms of strength: is it better than Halotestin? I know Halo is used primarily for strength, but which would skyrocket your strength better?

And the best steroid ever created is testosterone, not tren. That's why mother nature uses it

[Michael Scott]

And the best steroid ever created is testosterone, not tren. That's why mother nature uses it

Tren is 5 times more anabolic and androgenic than Test

[football3355]

Tren is 5 times more anabolic and androgenic than Test

please stay on topic, thanks. But you are correct, nonetheless.

[Michael Scott]

please stay on topic, thanks. But you are correct, nonetheless.

What are you the teacher or something

[one8nine]

What are you the teacher or something

its his thread

[one8nine]

Tren is 5 times more anabolic and androgenic than Test

cool it has a higher a/a ratio
lets see you live on tren only the rest of your life, no test
halo is like 15x as anabolic, 8x as androgenic as test einstein

[Bigmax]

Yeah Test is the format !!!!

[PT]

there isnt a drug out there that has made me as strong as halo has

[Maverick_J8]

there isnt a drug out there that has made me as strong as halo has

What kind of dosages do you run, and have you managed to keep all strength gains?

["Maximus"]

@ Mav,

From what I've seen/researched so far, Tren/Halo (50mg/30mg) for beginners. Also, in order to keep gains, your PCT/wkout will rule how much of your strength gains you get to keep.

["Maximus"]

I've seen other, advanced users, using higher doses in their cycles but IMO, it's good to keep it low if you're not that experieced...

[jstraw428]

For pure strength, halo is top dog.......I only use it in the final weeks of contest prep....it allows me to continue grueling workouts, even though i am energy depleted from severe dieting......I have run it at 50mg ed for 3wks, and by the end, my lower back pumps were almost unbearable.....very hard on your body....

[arenawarrior]

189 for prez!

[Flex-Appeal]

look at the thread stallion_1 just posted. Self explanatory ...

[goose]

The amazing thing about halo is it is mild as var for your natty,its just it has to break 3 bonds down for your liver,love it and hate tren.....

[football3355]

are you sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeee lol? Sorry, just really need insurance because this is my last year in s jc before I get transfered to Fullerton and I want to go out with a bang for baseball. I need enormous strength to hit more bombs this year. I dont need any mistakes (not saying you are wrong whatsoever man) I meant my choices.

[mad_hopper]

I used halo once as was strong as hell but overall tren is better IMO. I was freakishly strong and was putting on muscle like nobodys business. I lost at least 5 puonds of fat and had no water retention. Was a little pissed off all of the time though.

[one8nine]

honestly i don't like to guess, and i really am not sure scientifically
(plus i had trouble reading that jumble of words, not to be rude)
random numbers like that don't mean much to me,
I'm much more interested in actual user results


oh and by the way drol is the shit for strength and mass, but does not bind to ar strongly, if at alll.. and its AAR is
Anadrol 50(Oxymetholone)------------- 45------ 320


stallions AAR thread
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=356265

[football3355]

honestly i don't like to guess, and i really am not sure scientifically
(plus i had trouble reading that jumble of words, not to be rude)
random numbers like that don't mean much to me,
I'm much more interested in actual user results


oh and by the way drol is the shit for strength and mass, but does not bind to ar strongly, if at alll.. and its AAR is
Anadrol 50(Oxymetholone)------------- 45------ 320


stallions AAR thread
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=356265

yup that's true A50 has horrible binding affinity and still gives huge results. In terms of your experience and what you know scientifically, would you say Halo gives more strength than A50? Because if they are similar, in terms of strength, I dont mind using A50 because of joint-wellness when on it. But strength is everything for me.

[NJBigjay1986]

Halotestin is stronger than Anadrol?

[one8nine]

ahahhaah you keep asking the same question

halo is number 1 for strength, period

[NJBigjay1986]

Why are the rating higher for anadrol on the chart than?

[one8nine]

Why are the rating higher for anadrol on the chart than?

what chart

[NJBigjay1986]

Steroid Effectiveness Chart...Anadrol is a 10 and Halo is a 6

[one8nine]

Steroid Effectiveness Chart...Anadrol is a 10 and Halo is a 6

halo doesnt help weight gain, only strength. drol does both. but halo is best for strength

[football3355]

ahahhaah you keep asking the same question

halo is number 1 for strength, period

lol sorry man, just making sure Halo is King for strength because I don't want to spend alot(since it is expensive) and then find out later something cheaper like A50 for instance gives you more strength. Especially as a college student, since I don't have much money to spend.

[john1181]

non taken..it was a bunch of words...so the ratios mean nothing? just numbers...so i bet with all the knowledge you have you must have a sick physique bro cimetricaly speaking and i bet your pretty damn healthy 2 lol...good job

[one8nine]

non taken..it was a bunch of words...so the ratios mean nothing? just numbers...so i bet with all the knowledge you have you must have a sick physique bro cimetricaly speaking and i bet your pretty damn healthy 2 lol...good job

right now im the skinniest weakest person on this board i got hit by a car a few months ago
when i crashed i was 6'3" 215 7% i know thats not big fir a bb but i fight/wrestle at the 185 range so i gotta be able to cut there. its all about strength/endurance/power for me

[john1181]

weird shit going on and no one knows scientifical facts on the aar's....nice...i'll askbill roberts! THE MAN when it comes to sports enhancement, cycles etc etc.. its like getting drunker off beer worst than drinking vodka...another thing i noticed, it doesnt shut u down bad(halo) yet power is better than adrol...i wonder what endo test looks like during a halo only cycle.

[john1181]

that sucks bro...hope you get well quick...i hear you...strength/endurance/speed..bad thing about me is that i never cared much about endurance..it catches up so now i'm on track to get that coming into balance..once your good to start again it'l be back fast..ive stopped working out for 2years once and i was ready to gear in 3months and in overall a 5month period i was much faster and stronger than before i had stopped so i guess its all about patience..so did you stop eating? you couldnt have preserved any of that tissue? no therapy from the accident?

[one8nine]

that sucks bro...hope you get well quick...i hear you...strength/endurance/speed..bad thing about me is that i never cared much about endurance..it catches up so now i'm on track to get that coming into balance..once your good to start again it'l be back fast..ive stopped working out for 2years once and i was ready to gear in 3months and in overall a 5month period i was much faster and stronger than before i had stopped so i guess its all about patience..so did you stop eating? you couldnt have preserved any of that tissue? no therapy from the accident?

i was on so much pain killer medicine u could hardly eat im like 178 right now. therapy every day.

[john1181]

6'3 wrestling lol damn bro..no i think 216 is perfect at that height..i'm 6'2 and 220 i feel its perfect for me..i dont wanna get any bigger i just want to improve my cimetry and get more strength/endur/speed...its like the cash, the more you get te more you want.

[football3355]

let me know what you guys think of this cycle:

wk 1-4: Halo 20-30mg (depending on tolerance, but most likely 20mg)
wk 1-12: Test Prop 100mg ed

Diet: Clean bulk with tons of fish, chicken, potatoes, whole grain pasta, 280g protein ed, start out at 4000 cal ed, tons of water.

Training: Powerlifting routine, consisting of really low rep sets with heavy heavy weight. (5 sets of 5 my best bet)

wk 12-16: PCT with 20mg nolva ed/with proviron(researching dosage)

just so you know:

5'8"
180lbs
10% BF as of last night