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    i am currently on NPP w/ test prop.... I shoot NPP @ 200mg eod and Prop @ 30mg eod and I am having amazing results..... Npp can be shot anywhere from ed up to e4d... Ideally you want to shoot no later than e3d because you dont want to have declining blood levels, you want to keep your blood levels continually stable.... Also, a simple trt dose of test is all that is needed to keep your sex drive up and running.... it is a myth that you need to run test at an equal or higher level to the 19nor's....

    another benefit to the phenylpropionate ester over the deconate is that you will have less to minimal bloating.. NPP is awesome s h i t!!!!!!! have fun....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billytk03z View Post
    i am currently on NPP w/ test prop.... I shoot NPP @ 200mg eod and Prop @ 30mg eod and I am having amazing results..... Npp can be shot anywhere from ed up to e4d... Ideally you want to shoot no later than e3d because you dont want to have declining blood levels, you want to keep your blood levels continually stable.... Also, a simple trt dose of test is all that is needed to keep your sex drive up and running.... it is a myth that you need to run test at an equal or higher level to the 19nor's....

    another benefit to the phenylpropionate ester over the deconate is that you will have less to minimal bloating.. NPP is awesome s h i t!!!!!!! have fun....
    yeah
    you CAN run deca with tren, its a bad idea
    you CAN run winny only

    just because you CAN do something doesnt make it a good idea
    you are wrong, p-prop has an active life of 4.5 days, it CANNOT be shot e4d
    the rule of thumb is to inject 1/4 of the way through an active life
    for exapmple, test e has an active life of 10 days. would you inject test e every 10th day?
    no, that would be crazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    yeah
    you CAN run deca with tren, its a bad idea
    you CAN run winny only

    just because you CAN do something doesnt make it a good idea
    you are wrong, p-prop has an active life of 4.5 days, it CANNOT be shot e4d
    the rule of thumb is to inject 1/4 of the way through an active life
    for exapmple, test e has an active life of 10 days. would you inject test e every 10th day?
    no, that would be crazy
    Damn ONE8NINE, you are so right

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    yeah
    you CAN run deca with tren, its a bad idea
    you CAN run winny only

    just because you CAN do something doesnt make it a good idea
    you are wrong, p-prop has an active life of 4.5 days, it CANNOT be shot e4d
    the rule of thumb is to inject 1/4 of the way through an active life
    for exapmple, test e has an active life of 10 days. would you inject test e every 10th day?
    no, that would be crazy

    bro,

    please re-read my post before you comment...... no one ever said phenyl-prop can be shot e4d... I said NPP can be shot up to e4d but that it is better to shoot up to and no later than e3d before stable blood levels start to decline..... the propionate ester of prop has a shorter half-life than the phenyl-propionate ester.... so ideally it would be good to shoot test prop and npp eod as a matter of convienance and not out of necessity......
    Last edited by Billytk03z; 08-17-2008 at 01:55 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billytk03z View Post
    bro,

    please re-read my post before you comment...... no one ever said phenyl-prop can be shot e4d... I said NPP can be shot up to e4d but that it is better to shoot up to and no later than e3d before stable blood levels start to decline..... the propionate ester of prop has a shorter half-life than the phenyl-propionate ester.... so ideally it would be good to shoot test prop and npp eod as a matter of convienance and not out of necessity......
    prop and pprop have the same active life
    please educate yourself before giving terrible advice
    neither can be injected e4d

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    prop and pprop have the same active life
    please educate yourself before giving terrible advice
    neither can be injected e4d
    my education is actual use with the aforementioned compounds and results which im sure you have none of.... just stick to reading and reciting the current available abstract information and quit making comments on compounds you probably have no experience with.... Also, stating that neither can be injected e4d is flat wrong... anything can be injected at anytime.. You can inject test prop e5d and still see results, is it a good idea to do? NO! but can it be done and results still acheived? yes! so quit making flat wrong blanket statements....
    Last edited by Billytk03z; 08-17-2008 at 02:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Billytk03z View Post
    my education is actual use and results which im sure you have none of.... just stick to reading and reciting the current available abstract information and quit making comments on compounds you have no experience with....
    you just turned this conversation upside down
    im not going to argue about personal experience, ive used them all, and im not scared of needles either. i use them correctly, ed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    you just turned this conversation upside down
    im not going to argue about personal experience, ive used them all, and im not scared of needles either. i use them correctly, ed.
    You liar, you emailed me telling me you are scared to inject yourself ED and I had to talk you through it ED for a month...J/K LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    prop and pprop have the same active life
    please educate yourself before giving terrible advice
    neither can be injected e4d
    why have two different esters if they both have the same active half life? that doesnt make sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkrulic View Post
    why have two different esters if they both have the same active half life? that doesnt make sense to me.

    you know that test enanthate has more active hormone mg for mg than test p-prop?
    i dont make them, i assume they cant get the prop ester onto nandro...
    have you ever seen nandro propionate? i havent

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    you know that test enanthate has more active hormone mg for mg than test p-prop?
    i dont make them, i assume they cant get the prop ester onto nandro...
    have you ever seen nandro propionate? i havent
    youll have to run the calcs or check aginst the roid calculator but that little bit of extra hormone dosent mean you will get more overall. longer estered hormones bulid up more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by one8nine View Post
    yeah
    you CAN run deca with tren, its a bad idea
    you CAN run winny only

    just because you CAN do something doesnt make it a good idea
    you are wrong, p-prop has an active life of 4.5 days, it CANNOT be shot e4d
    the rule of thumb is to inject 1/4 of the way through an active life
    for exapmple, test e has an active life of 10 days. would you inject test e every 10th day?
    no, that would be crazy
    ok so according to your rule of thumb, inject 1\4 the way through an active life. so its ok to inject test-e every 3 to 4 days with an active life of 10 days. even though 1\4 of 10 days is only 2.5 days. so theoretically it would be safe to say 1\4 of 4.5 days would be ok to inject eod. or close to 1.6 days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by te4vass View Post
    ok so according to your rule of thumb, inject 1\4 the way through an active life. so its ok to inject test-e every 3 to 4 days with an active life of 10 days. even though 1\4 of 10 days is only 2.5 days. so theoretically it would be safe to say 1\4 of 4.5 days would be ok to inject eod. or close to 1.6 days.
    im not saying exactly 1/4, just an idea
    this guy said e4d is okay even though the active life is 4.5 days. im saying get it way before the active life ends
    if youre just going to shoot it however you want, go for it bro. but the bottom line is youll have much better results and much less side effects using them every day.

    just because you can "get away" with something doesnt make it smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by te4vass View Post
    ok so according to your rule of thumb, inject 1\4 the way through an active life. so its ok to inject test-e every 3 to 4 days with an active life of 10 days. even though 1\4 of 10 days is only 2.5 days. so theoretically it would be safe to say 1\4 of 4.5 days would be ok to inject eod. or close to 1.6 days.
    You dont have to be this tight w/ it. the only hormone I have to shoot ed is trren. thats because a small change in the amount of tren in your sys is highly noticable. this wont be true of test and deca. at least no for me. e3d would be fine. imho

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    Quote Originally Posted by mkrulic View Post
    You dont have to be this tight w/ it. the only hormone I have to shoot ed is trren. thats because a small change in the amount of tren in your sys is highly noticable. this wont be true of test and deca. at least no for me. e3d would be fine. imho
    I agree. I wasn't trying to be dead on with I was just showing that eod was acceptable for npp injections. according to the 1\4 rule of thumb.
    thanks for ur input.

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