Ways to lower my natty test level needed.

[scibble]

how come you're wanting to be in the study, if don't mind my asking.

not for TRT? you only got 50-50 shot at that...

..unless there's a crossover

[40plusnewbie]

how come you're wanting to be in the study, if don't mind my asking.

not for TRT? you only got 50-50 shot at that...

..unless there's a crossover

Well I get a bunch of free viagra plus get paid, and I'm sure I will notice if I'm getting test or a placebo and there is nothing they can do to force me to stay in the study (if I get the placebo and drop out with some excuse). Since I still have a high bf% (over 20%) and test transdermal helped me jumpstart a weighloss plan in January I have went from 295 to 245. If I get the TRT I think it would be a nice base I can add in anavar and winny for a couple cycles to help me cut more fat.

I know the speech about steroids don't cut fat but it's different for older guys with with low test. When I started with a creme (I got off the grey market so to speak) I was able to change my eating habits dramatically. When your older and have low test there is a lot of crap that happens- fat stomach, low energy, etc, etc. I used it for like 6 weeks or so at a very low dose.

I'm having a hard time breaking below 245lbs naturally. I was planning an anavar cycle after a physical in Sept but if I get on TRT for 6 months for free that would be a nice bonus and I could still do the anavar for a cpl cycles, maybe some winny too.