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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph4u2c View Post
    apparently you need to re-read what i wrote and this sentence from you "actually BCAA's main ingredients are those 3, and the only ingredients as far as i know" contradicts itself. if it is the 3 main ingredients and those are the only you know, then look at the rest of the list and you'll know more many decent BCAA products include more than just the 3 listed.

    i said they are a small BUT IMPORTANT part, that is why they are listed as the main ingredients. these are the most important to bodybuilder, building muscle, etc. and are the "essential bodybuilder's amino acids"



    sure. there are 9 essential amino acids: histidine, isoleucine, leucine, lysine, methionine, phenylalanine, tryptophan, and valine. these can not by synthesized by a human. there are 20 amino acids that are made by the body and we do not rely on to get from food. these are different and not part of the essential amino acid group. any other questions feel free to post.

    BCAA's are L-Valine, L-Leucine, and L-Isoleucine PERIOD! I believe you are a bit confused. You may be referring to some amino acid supps that include more than just those 3, but by definition BCAA's are just those 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbot138 View Post
    BCAA's are L-Valine, L-Leucine, and L-Isoleucine PERIOD! I believe you are a bit confused. You may be referring to some amino acid supps that include more than just those 3, but by definition BCAA's are just those 3.
    yes what he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbot138 View Post
    BCAA's are L-Valine, L-Leucine, and L-Isoleucine PERIOD! I believe you are a bit confused. You may be referring to some amino acid supps that include more than just those 3, but by definition BCAA's are just those 3.
    This is correct. BCAA's are just those 3. Peachfuzz even listed a link to wiki that breaks its down for you. There are 6 other essential amino acids you get from food but these are the BRANCH-CHAIN AMINO ACIDS that have aliphatic side-chains that are non-linear (Straight from wiki, and yes I went through chem). I don't know of any product sold specifically as BCAA's that have anymore than just those three. The products that ralph listed earlier like purple wrath are not BCAA specific they contain the other 6 EAA's and other stuff as well.

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    i believe the term BCAA is widely associated with valine, leucine, and isoleucine in the body building world, but outside of that (rest of the world) the term branched chain of amino acids is a term referring to the unique branch-like chemical structure that the 3 amino acids form. this is not the only 3 amino acids that when bonded form a "branch chain" structure, but it by far the most common and overtime has generally been accepted as those 3. like peachfuzz, i was trying to be exact.

    everything you read on Wikipedia may not be correct or the full story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph4u2c View Post
    i believe the term BCAA is widely associated with valine, leucine, and isoleucine in the body building world, but outside of that (rest of the world) the term branched chain of amino acids is a term referring to the unique branch-like chemical structure that the 3 amino acids form. this is not the only 3 amino acids that when bonded form a "branch chain" structure, but it by far the most common and overtime has generally been accepted as those 3. like peachfuzz, i was trying to be exact.

    everything you read on Wikipedia may not be correct or the full story.
    I see what you saying with the 9 essential amino acids because the body does not synthesize them so in fact supplementation of all of them is more benefical than just the 3. But I did not think that the other 6 formed a branch like chemical structure hence the name BCAA. Should it be called BCEAA then? Please direct me to more reading if I am wrong. Yes I've been reading wiki.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reed500 View Post
    I see what you saying with the 9 essential amino acids because the body does not synthesize them so in fact supplementation of all of them is more benefical than just the 3. But I did not think that the other 6 formed a branch like chemical structure hence the name BCAA. Should it be called BCEAA then? Please direct me to more reading if I am wrong. Yes I've been reading wiki.....
    lol no. think of it as more of a general term that how now been associated with those 3. also, there are boat loads of articles, research, and studies on various websites. i would stay away from wikipedia at all cost. that place does little to nothing to make sure its information is correct and has no validity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph4u2c View Post
    i believe the term BCAA is widely associated with valine, leucine, and isoleucine in the body building world, but outside of that (rest of the world) the term branched chain of amino acids is a term referring to the unique branch-like chemical structure that the 3 amino acids form. this is not the only 3 amino acids that when bonded form a "branch chain" structure, but it by far the most common and overtime has generally been accepted as those 3. like peachfuzz, i was trying to be exact.

    everything you read on Wikipedia may not be correct or the full story.
    last time i checked the molecular structures of amino acids did not change once they entered, "the bodybuilding world" whatever that is. Leucine isoleucine and valine each possess there own branched side chains, the three dont form "the branched chain structure" i have no idea where you are getting this information from. i asked you to elaborate and you spew nonsense. you told me how many amino acids there are and which of those are essential. nothing about branched chains in your explination.


    Quote Originally Posted by ralph4u2c View Post
    lol no. think of it as more of a general term that how now been associated with those 3. also, there are boat loads of articles, research, and studies on various websites. i would stay away from wikipedia at all cost. that place does little to nothing to make sure its information is correct and has no validity.
    the only thing i have to agree with is wiki is not a reliable source of information. however that article was more than adequate for purposes of explaining branched chain amino acids. and if it wasnt then maybe this will help.

    http://www.ajiaminoacids.com/docs/re...mino_Acids.pdf

    http://www.bionewsonline.com/e/what_is_amino_acid.htm

    as far as your "boat loads of articles, research, and studies on various websites" perhaps you could share even one of them that can enlighten me as to how isoleucine, leucine and valine are not the only BCAAs (only in the bodybuilding world)

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