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    Quote Originally Posted by audis4 View Post
    My appologies for taking 900 years to get back to you bro! it was a crazy weekend and I had quite a bit going

    Anyhow, I gave you my best critique, take a look and let me know what you think.

    looks like your doing more calorie cycling vs carb cycling.

    On low/no carb days, I'd up the fat/protein/veggie intake like hell. Try to keep cals constant on all days, unless your wanting to calorie cycle. I'd also have a crazy feed day of high carbs.

    What are your maintenance cals btw? Cals seem much to low to do a lean bulk.

    Are you going to be on anything? What are your goals?
    Thanks for the words of wisdom bro. I have been thinking about doing away with the no carb days and just running 5 low carb days (bout 2500 cals) with 2 high carb days (refeed days bout 3500 cals). My maintanence cals are right around 2800 right now so I thought about starting there and then inching my way up. Don't plan on doing anygear until I get back up to around 200 lbs. I am about to get my bf checked again along with some measurements so I can assess my progress. Biggest goal is to keep my bf in check so next summer it will be easier to get down to a low bf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M302_Imola View Post
    Thanks for the words of wisdom bro. I have been thinking about doing away with the no carb days and just running 5 low carb days (bout 2500 cals) with 2 high carb days (refeed days bout 3500 cals). My maintanence cals are right around 2800 right now so I thought about starting there and then inching my way up. Don't plan on doing anygear until I get back up to around 200 lbs. I am about to get my bf checked again along with some measurements so I can assess my progress. Biggest goal is to keep my bf in check so next summer it will be easier to get down to a low bf.
    hey you got it bro!

    Ya, I would personally do away with no carb days. I have never carb cycled while lean bulking before so you'll have to let me know the outcome! I wouldn't go under maintenance cals; in fact, I wouldn't go under 3,000 cals/day. If your specifically 'carb cycling,' keep cals constant whether your on a low carb day or high carb day.

    On low carb days, just up the protein like hell but I wouldn't go too terribly low on carbs where you feel fatigued. Also make sure your taking in a good amount of healthy fats.

    Make sure you have a carb up day every few days or so where your eating something like 1-1.5g protein/lbs body weight and your carbs are coming from sweet potatos, oats, yams etc. As far as carbs, try to get 2.5-3g carbs/lbs body weight and keep fats lower.

    Your goal of 200lbs shouldn't be hard to attain at all! I know you how to diet

    Let me know what you think. Don't make the diet too confusing where you are going to lose track. Come up with something a bit more simple and I'll be happy to help bud!

    audis4

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    Quote Originally Posted by M302_Imola View Post
    Thanks for the words of wisdom bro. I have been thinking about doing away with the no carb days and just running 5 low carb days (bout 2500 cals) with 2 high carb days (refeed days bout 3500 cals). My maintanence cals are right around 2800 right now so I thought about starting there and then inching my way up. Don't plan on doing anygear until I get back up to around 200 lbs. I am about to get my bf checked again along with some measurements so I can assess my progress. Biggest goal is to keep my bf in check so next summer it will be easier to get down to a low bf.
    i think audis has helped you well with your diet. but your dietary approach may need tweaking. when you say low carb days, and 2500cals, how many cals are coming from carbs? pro? fat?

    and on higher days, what will your macros spread be then in regard to calorie intake?

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp View Post
    i think audis has helped you well with your diet. but your dietary approach may need tweaking. when you say low carb days, and 2500cals, how many cals are coming from carbs? pro? fat?

    and on higher days, what will your macros spread be then in regard to calorie intake?
    I am revising my diet as we speak. I was thinking around 150-175g carbs during my low carb days and around 400g on high carb days. Do you think that 400g of carbs is enough for my refeed (high carb) days or should I increase this number? After I get some answers I will repost my diet. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by M302_Imola View Post
    I am revising my diet as we speak. I was thinking around 150-175g carbs during my low carb days and around 400g on high carb days. Do you think that 400g of carbs is enough for my refeed (high carb) days or should I increase this number? After I get some answers I will repost my diet. Thanks
    It's rather hard to actually know what amount of carbs you should eat.

    You need to factor in your activity level for that day, if you're taking any drugs etc.

    After my last lean bulk, I know my body better than ever and I know approximately how many carbs I will need to lean up or bulk up.

    I started off a bit over maintenance; 8 meals that were all pro/carb except the last meal.

    it went something like this,
    meal 1:
    7oz chicken
    1 cup oats
    1tbsp natty PB

    meal 2:
    12 egg whites
    12 oz sweet potato

    and my last meal is
    1 cup ff cottage cheese
    2 tbsp natty PB

    I would recommend starting off a few hundred cals over maintenance and try to make all your meals pro/carb. I would throw in some healthy fats as well. Really watch your physique, I tend to put on weight in my face so it's an easy way for me to tell. If you start gaining fat, drop cals slightly but i would keep your carb intake up.

    JMO, post up your diet when your finished and I'll take a look

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    Quote Originally Posted by audis4 View Post
    It's rather hard to actually know what amount of carbs you should eat.

    You need to factor in your activity level for that day, if you're taking any drugs etc.

    After my last lean bulk, I know my body better than ever and I know approximately how many carbs I will need to lean up or bulk up.

    I started off a bit over maintenance; 8 meals that were all pro/carb except the last meal.

    it went something like this,
    meal 1:
    7oz chicken
    1 cup oats
    1tbsp natty PB

    meal 2:
    12 egg whites
    12 oz sweet potato

    and my last meal is
    1 cup ff cottage cheese
    2 tbsp natty PB

    I would recommend starting off a few hundred cals over maintenance and try to make all your meals pro/carb. I would throw in some healthy fats as well. Really watch your physique, I tend to put on weight in my face so it's an easy way for me to tell. If you start gaining fat, drop cals slightly but i would keep your carb intake up.

    JMO, post up your diet when your finished and I'll take a look
    Good info bro thanks. I have never tried to regulate my carb intake while bulking so I am going to experiment with the cycling (5 low days and 2 refeed days) and let the mirror give me guidance. I am going to be patient but if gains are to slow, I will go back to a diet like before (similar to yours). I am goin to post the diet by tomorrow morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M302_Imola View Post
    I am revising my diet as we speak. I was thinking around 150-175g carbs during my low carb days and around 400g on high carb days. Do you think that 400g of carbs is enough for my refeed (high carb) days or should I increase this number? After I get some answers I will repost my diet. Thanks
    i agree with audis. guy knows his stuff.

    with the carbs, if you are going to bulk under 200g of carbs a day i would have one refeed day where i go about 400 or so and then another where you top off over 500g. refeed days are whate separate good gains from great gains IMO. and they are not cheat days. they are whole-wheat potato-loving, oat-bag, definitely-going-to-get-a-little-bloated days.

    audis' approach is extremely close to mine when bulking. and its a no-nonsense approach. eat eat eat. let's see the diet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp View Post
    i agree with audis. guy knows his stuff.

    with the carbs, if you are going to bulk under 200g of carbs a day i would have one refeed day where i go about 400 or so and then another where you top off over 500g. refeed days are whate separate good gains from great gains IMO. and they are not cheat days. they are whole-wheat potato-loving, oat-bag, definitely-going-to-get-a-little-bloated days.

    audis' approach is extremely close to mine when bulking. and its a no-nonsense approach. eat eat eat. let's see the diet.
    ^^


    btw, everything I know, I learned from you

    pro/carb is the best way IMO!

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp View Post
    i agree with audis. guy knows his stuff.

    with the carbs, if you are going to bulk under 200g of carbs a day i would have one refeed day where i go about 400 or so and then another where you top off over 500g. refeed days are whate separate good gains from great gains IMO. and they are not cheat days. they are whole-wheat potato-loving, oat-bag, definitely-going-to-get-a-little-bloated days.

    audis' approach is extremely close to mine when bulking. and its a no-nonsense approach. eat eat eat. let's see the diet.
    Thanks bro the diet will be up by tomorrow morning so you guys can tweek away

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