Sarah Palins Public Speech

[B.E.N.]

Lot of rhetoric going around in this post...some of us need to quit listening to the media and do some research of our own before we come to any conclusions.

For me it a major issue is Obama's policy on gun control. They have to bring some guns of there own if they think I'm just going to lay mine down.

Second the guy seems to talk down to suburban/rural middle class Americans.

Third the guy every time you open the paper, turn the TV on, or check your email you see something new about the guy being linked to terrorists, racists, radicalists, misogynist, or whatever kind of 'ist' you can think of. And I'm sure they are not all true but where there's smoke there's fire...

Christ we've all got skeletons but this character has a cemetery of them...

[BgMc31]

Lot of rhetoric going around in this post...some of us need to quit listening to the media and do some research of our own before we come to any conclusions.

For me it a major issue is Obama's policy on gun control. They have to bring some guns of there own if they think I'm just going to lay mine down.

Second the guy seems to talk down to suburban/rural middle class Americans.

Third the guy every time you open the paper, turn the TV on, or check your email you see something new about the guy being linked to terrorists, racists, radicalists, misogynist, or whatever kind of 'ist' you can think of. And I'm sure they are not all true but where there's smoke there's fire...

Christ we've all got skeletons but this character has a cemetery of them...

Another sheep in the fold! Look who is 'linking' Obama to all these 'ists'. And also look at the thin links. If you believe all that bullshit rhetoric then you weren't considering voting for the man in the 1st place.

I've yet to hear him speak down to anyone. Please sight relevant examples. I believe the only one you can come up with is the "...guns and religion" comment. But again I'm sure all you heard was the sound bite and have yet to hear the entire comment or his subsequent explaination which was spot on. But again, you weren't looking for a reason TO vote for him anyway, the conservative arguments you latch on to just makes you and other's like you feel better about not voting for him. Let's keep it real!

[B.E.N.]

How quick to peg....

Notice in my previous post I say 'I'm sure they are not all true'. Regarding his speech, you have your interpretation of his comments and I have mine.

The way I approach my vote(s) is to look at the two people and determine first why I WOULD vote for both. Then I read and listen to speculation surrounding them.

In Obama's case I could find little to vote for (my opinion only) and much speculation. Not to say McCain is not without speculation and his own issues.
But the speculation (and that may be all it is) is far greater surrounding Obama.

I am interested to hear your reasons for trumpeting Obama so fiercely. Why does he earn your vote? I am interested your views.

If I had things my way I would be voting Huckabee in November. So yes...conservative I am but those are my views. It has nothing to do with the person that Obama is.

As far as feeling 'better' about myself, I'm not quite sure what that has to do with anything. Any candidate that thinks they are taking my guns and is for abortion of any kind does not have my vote. Those priniciples make me very comfortable.

[BgMc31]

^^1st I know godfather and blome will chime in on this once I post. But just on the topics you listed you are confused or ignorant to Obama's position on both those issues. 1st he isn't 'for' abortion and that is a typical conservative misnomer. There is a major difference between being for abortion and being pro-choice. Now to avoid having this thread locked (like another thread recently) there is no reason to start a debate on when life supposedly begins because that isn't the issue. I, like Obama, believe that its a woman's right to do as she chooses with her body especially in cases of rape or incest.

2nd, whether you believe it or not, Obama doesn't want to take guns away from everybody. He's believes in regulation and recognizes the difference between gun ownership in rural Montana and urban southside Chicago.

It amazes me that you don't see the difference between the coverage 'surrounding' Obama and that of McCain. You don't find it puzzling that McCains association with a radical preacher didn't receive nearly the coverage of Obama's? You don't find it strange that McCain cheated on his 1st wife with Cindy McCain and that is never brought up? You don't find it strange that McCain's admiration of Strom Thurman (a devout racist and segregationist) are never covered? Your inability or unwillingness to examine those facts further demonstrates you unwillingness to examine all aspects of a candidate and rely on talking points to make your decision.

[SMCengineer]

^^1st I know godfather and blome will chime in on this once I post. But just on the topics you listed you are confused or ignorant to Obama's position on both those issues. 1st he isn't 'for' abortion and that is a typical conservative misnomer. There is a major difference between being for abortion and being pro-choice. Now to avoid having this thread locked (like another thread recently) there is no reason to start a debate on when life supposedly begins because that isn't the issue. I, like Obama, believe that its a woman's right to do as she chooses with her body especially in cases of rape or incest.

What's wrong with being 'for abortion'? It's a stance not a taboo.

Btw, i think that last thread was deleted because of the title not because the discussion.