Help major dr frustrations

[TRA]

Not likely you'll find a doc who will write you for more than 200 mg/wk. Primary care docs don't know a lot about test replacement, just a bit about the Androgel. You do need an anti-aging doc most likely, or one that is more knowledgeable about AAS, etc., and comfortable writing the **.

Being a doc myself, I read this thread with a little bit of amusement, as people tend to get pissed when they come in and want something and don't get it.

A lot of times docs have the arrogant attitude, it's built in from med school, and some are just egotistical pricks, but there are some good ones out there as well.

In defense of the latter, the reason they don't want to write for the stuff is twofold. First, without the knowledge, they are afraid of harming you, and it's outside their comfort level. The wouldn't write scripts for other drugs they don't know about either. Second, we're held responsible for everything we do. Test is a scheduled drug, and the scripts are tracked in over 90% of the pharmacies. If anything happens that triggers the medical board to look at the history, as a doc you're accountable for all the controlled substance scripts and can get into deep shit and even lose a license for writing for the stuff outside the FDA indications.

And the fact that you're not getting HCG with the test is a bit concerning as well.

The medical boards in a lot of states are coming down hard on the anti-aging medicine as well, because they feel it is outside the parameters of normal medicine, so that has people a bit gun shy also.

I know its frustrating, but it isn't necessarily a reflection on the quality of a doctor. It is more about their comfort level than anything.

And this doesn't even address the liability or malpractice issues, such as someone having an elevated PSA, or getting prostate cancer while on therapy. You're friggin' toast if that happens.

The guys here know WAY more than 99% of the docs when it comes to test and other AAS, but that's because aside from endocrinology, there isn't a lot of practical application to the knowledge in reguar medicine, so it isn't taught.

[zaggahamma]

Not likely you'll find a doc who will write you for more than 200 mg/wk. Primary care docs don't know a lot about test replacement, just a bit about the Androgel. You do need an anti-aging doc most likely, or one that is more knowledgeable about AAS, etc., and comfortable writing the **.

Being a doc myself, I read this thread with a little bit of amusement, as people tend to get pissed when they come in and want something and don't get it.

A lot of times docs have the arrogant attitude, it's built in from med school, and some are just egotistical pricks, but there are some good ones out there as well.

In defense of the latter, the reason they don't want to write for the stuff is twofold. First, without the knowledge, they are afraid of harming you, and it's outside their comfort level. The wouldn't write scripts for other drugs they don't know about either. Second, we're held responsible for everything we do. Test is a scheduled drug, and the scripts are tracked in over 90% of the pharmacies. If anything happens that triggers the medical board to look at the history, as a doc you're accountable for all the controlled substance scripts and can get into deep shit and even lose a license for writing for the stuff outside the FDA indications.

And the fact that you're not getting HCG with the test is a bit concerning as well.

The medical boards in a lot of states are coming down hard on the anti-aging medicine as well, because they feel it is outside the parameters of normal medicine, so that has people a bit gun shy also.

I know its frustrating, but it isn't necessarily a reflection on the quality of a doctor. It is more about their comfort level than anything.

And this doesn't even address the liability or malpractice issues, such as someone having an elevated PSA, or getting prostate cancer while on therapy. You're friggin' toast if that happens.

The guys here know WAY more than 99% of the docs when it comes to test and other AAS, but that's because aside from endocrinology, there isn't a lot of practical application to the knowledge in reguar medicine, so it isn't taught.

Thanks for chiming in on the hrt forum...excellent points made and the sentence I highlighted off your post concerns me as well as I've been on trt mostly relatively high doses (done myself cuz script is low dose) for 2 1/2 years and asked for hcg about a year ago and my doc said he would refer me and at the time i couldnt afford to see another doc...i was hoping he could just add it to my therapy...guess he hasnt kept up on his anti aging learning...can you elaborate on this fact more esp. on the lines of will the boys ever come back and/or what are the chances that i am infertile?

thanks

[TRA]

Thanks for chiming in on the hrt forum...excellent points made and the sentence I highlighted off your post concerns me as well as I've been on trt mostly relatively high doses (done myself cuz script is low dose) for 2 1/2 years and asked for hcg about a year ago and my doc said he would refer me and at the time i couldnt afford to see another doc...i was hoping he could just add it to my therapy...guess he hasnt kept up on his anti aging learning...can you elaborate on this fact more esp. on the lines of will the boys ever come back and/or what are the chances that i am infertile?

thanks

I can't elaborate, as I don't know. I think the guys on the steroid forum would know better than I, but I would start doing some now if you're still on the test. I'll try to find out for you, and post or pm if I get some reliable info. No idea what the time limit is, but I do know the testes bounce back with HCG. It should be relatively easy to come by, as it isn't controlled. 500 IUs two days a week prior to your test should be good. But check with the guys on the forum under steroids. You can also get a sperm count to see if where you are in that area, but I would wait until after the HCG and give it a couple of months.

[zaggahamma]

I can't elaborate, as I don't know. I think the guys on the steroid forum would know better than I, but I would start doing some now if you're still on the test. I'll try to find out for you, and post or pm if I get some reliable info. No idea what the time limit is, but I do know the testes bounce back with HCG. It should be relatively easy to come by, as it isn't controlled. 500 IUs two days a week prior to your test should be good. But check with the guys on the forum under steroids. You can also get a sperm count to see if where you are in that area, but I would wait until after the HCG and give it a couple of months.

thanks bro