whole good natural base thing myth?

[Booz]

honestly i think the natural base thing is a myth, i think it only seems that way cuz many of the people who don't start out with a good base, dont have good work ethic/dieting info, knowledge of steroids, etc on bodybuilding.

i really think that anyone with perhaps no bodybuilding experience, and hires a personal trainer for instance does a good diet, good workout , if hes taking aas and has basic knowledge, u know kickstart steroid, with test e, and pct as clomid afterwards is still going to benefit more then natty, i mean where is the proof in this?

honestly i've read tons of these posts b4, and all i've ever heard is, it won't work... ur natty, you don't have a good base, it'll all go back, blah blah blah..

look guys, i don't think u can really say, that a guy whos never trained b4, but hires a personal trainer, follows strict diet, has decent knowledge on steroids; kick start roid, clomid, etc is going to gain about as much if he was in the same situation, but didn't take the roids. my gut tells me that the guy who took the roids, is going to gain considerably more muscles even with the leftover keep gains.

honestly i know i might have a few flames, and prolly a lot of disagreements and a helluva alota disagreements/aggrements for this, but honestly the whole dude why start roids when ur still natty wait till ur peak, doesn't make sense to me..

look guys, no one really needs to bodybuild unless working construction, bouncer, sports, etc..

we all take juice cuz we like to and we want the gains now and quicker,

people who haven't reached their peak are doing the same thing.

so why do we always gotta bust the dudes balls who hired the personal trainer, followed the diet, did the workout, and took the juice?

btw, i don't think roids can kill u or totally deplete ur testosterone permentaly if u know what ur doing

no one has said that you will not build muscles if you havent been training for X amount of time at all,just that its easier to hold on to the extra muscle when you have a solid base to start with............
otherwise more than likely after you come off you will be a skinny runt again..........
you need to know how to train how to eat and rest...........
you need to be dedicated in what you do and that takes time not 5 mins into the world of bodybuilding..........
jmo.............

[Alex Rodriguez]

no one has said that you will not build muscles if you havent been training for X amount of time at all,just that its easier to hold on to the extra muscle when you have a solid base to start with............
otherwise more than likely after you come off you will be a skinny runt again..........
you need to know how to train how to eat and rest...........
you need to be dedicated in what you do and that takes time not 5 mins into the world of bodybuilding..........
jmo.............

even then with the leftover gains after ur finish ur pct, i still think on average it would be considerably more mass then someone who didn't take roids.

[A&FGuy]

no one has said that you will not build muscles if you havent been training for X amount of time at all,just that its easier to hold on to the extra muscle when you have a solid base to start with............
otherwise more than likely after you come off you will be a skinny runt again..........
you need to know how to train how to eat and rest...........
you need to be dedicated in what you do and that takes time not 5 mins into the world of bodybuilding..........
jmo.............

Couldnt have said it better, dedication is key.