First cycle (10 weeks) Test-E and Prop.

[Older lifter]

25mg proviron for a Test only cycle, is not needed, unless you are gyno prone or had acquired gyno from puberty, etc.

Maximus, bro

Just want to check on something you said above, I agree with most of what you said but would like a bit more info on the "not needed unless you are gyno prone"
I know many guys that always use Proviron with a test cycle for the benifits, not to hinder gyno. Added some of the info i have read on proviron, and i do use it on test cycles
Just trying to tap what you know bro

Proviron is very much a "synergistic" drug in this respect, and it´s inclusion in any cycle would definitely make all of the other steroids perform better, and provide better gains. This is all compounded by the fact that proviron is a very lipolytic (fat-burning) drug.

Now, as if all of this weren´t enough, let´s talk about how Proviron affects your HPTA (Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testicular-Axis)& the thing that regulates the male hormonal system. When a reasonable dose of this stuff is given (100-150mgs/day), it had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels (6). Follicle Stimulating Hormone (FSH) and Leutenizing Hormone (LH) are two hormones which send a signal to your testes to produce testosterone. Good news for people considering it for PCT is that it can even raise your LH (10)! Thus, by not suppressing those hormones and maybe even raising some, your normal testosterone levels will remain intact. This points to a novel use for this compound during Post-Cycyle-Therapy for a non-suppressive "bridge" between cycles. In fact, in yet another study, administration of Proviron (basically the same dose as in the last study) produced no changes in steroids, thyroid hormones, gonadotropins nor PRL (Prolactin Levels& you want those to remain low). (8).

Unfortunately, this stuff is not too hot on it´s own. It´s a good drug for inclusion in a cycle containing testosterone and other armoatizable steroids, and it´s a good drug for a possible "bridge" between cycles. Alone, however, as an androgenic or anabolic agent, it´s effects have been very weak in both studies (9), as well as in the experience of everyone I spoke to about it. This may be due to the addition of the 1-methyl-group to DHT, which makes this stuff orally active. Whatever the case, as a stand alone anabolic or androgenic compound, it´s not too impressive.

["Maximus"]

Maximus, bro

Just want to check on something you said above, I agree with most of what you said but would like a bit more info on the "not needed unless you are gyno prone"
I know many guys that always use Proviron with a test cycle for the benefits, not to hinder gyno. Added some of the info i have read on proviron, and i do use it on test cycles
Just trying to tap what you know bro

No problem; I like an educated argument as well, so no prob. w/me!

First, let me clarify that Proviron can be taken on cycle as an AI; we all know that. However, personally, I wouldn't do so as Proviron is not too expensive nor is very cheap. So, if you get Proviron supply for 3 or 4 weeks (the norm) I would save that for PCT because that's where the body needs help in getting natty levels off the floor. However, if you can afford to take proviron on cycle it would be my #1 choice -aside arimidex/letro- here because of the synergy created on cycle, as well as to prevent me from getting a free double D's if you are gyno prone or have experienced gyno from past cycles.

On the other hand, the only time that I would break my pocket to really have Proviron on cycle would be when cycling very suppressive stacks, such as Tren/Deca/Masteron as one will get shutdown extremely hard and will be nice to help my body out while on cycle to make PCT stronger in order to keep my hard earned gains.

Finally, in my opinion, it is a great drug to cycle along with any AAS stack but is not 'that' necessary on a Test only cycle... the costs do not justify the synergy. Just pointing out one reason (out of the many good ones there are; sorry for the bold but I highlight this to prevent flaming) why I say this, let's look at the synergistic effect of potential fat burning effectiveness on cycle, using Proviron.

If you want to add fat burning synergy on a cycle there are better stackable drugs for that purpose that might run you far lower $$$ and give you 10x the fat burning result Proviron alone w/Test could offer.

Bottom line is, that if you're looking at keeping natty levels up and prevent to be shutdown hard until PCT then Proviron is that drug to help for both on cycle and PCT, along with Nolva and/or Clomid, on very suppresive cycles... IMO, I don't think it is needed on a Test only based cycle but if you can afford it, have your way =)!