iam using tren E 400mgs and test E 500mgs a week right now iam into week 5 and iam loving the tren. so far ive lost 13lbs of bf and thats just in the last 2 weeks. diets in check but no cardio. you should run the tren for 11 weeks and the test for 12 weeks then pct.. hope that helps good luck.. ohh and i havent had any bloating at all face is actually looking smaller. 202lbs 5'11 11%bf