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    Well Deca should really be run with Test... And neither are a good idea for you at your current weight and BF%...

    Continued lifting and a proper amount of protein will keep your muscle...
    OK, so just eating 300-320g of protein daily will spare my muscle at 1800 calories a day? No significant catabolism?

    Where do you think I should be, weight and BF% wise before I can start using a little something for some modest size/strength gains?

    Anybody else have any thoughts on me possibly using DNP, or DNP in general?
    Thanks
    Last edited by Fattman Cruthers; 10-02-2008 at 09:18 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fattman Cruthers View Post
    Where do you think I should be, weight and BF% wise before I can start using a little something for some modest size/strength gains?
    below 15%bf

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    I think you are going a little overboard with the understanding of your muscles getting catabolized. Get in the gym, start making smart food choices and keep researching while you get thinner.

    IMO, quick way to start losing weight is exercising with weights, not just cardio. you need to build lean muscle tissue. the more muscle you have, the more calories you burn maintaing it. Something that helped me right away(when i was trying to lose a lot of weight), is cutting all liquids out of my diet except water. no fruit juices, alcohol, milk, sodas...nothing but water. do not drink your calories. start getting used to eating 6 small meals a day. as you continue to research these forums youll start to see what the proper food choices will be. obviously no more fried foods, pizza, 6 servings of pasta a day. they all need to go away. no one is going to hand you this information like you want. trust me, youll be better for it by studying what is said here. so get reading, then come back with something we can work with and critique to help you on your way to a leaner you.

    you need to wait on using gear. Your body fat levels will only exasperate the sides of steroids and wont make them fun at all. also, think about this. If you get to strong to fast in your condition, you are at great risk of seriously hurting yourself.. albeit muscle tears to tendons tears. when that happens.. you are even worse off than you are now.

    hope that helps!
    Last edited by AdamGH; 10-02-2008 at 09:37 PM.

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    OK, dudes. No gear for me...for now.
    How about some small help with 2 other things?
    1. How much protein do I need to ingest daily?
    2. How about a good "losers" workout plan to follow?
    Thanks a bunch

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