what's the least carb intake; for a muscle to still be building?

[VeraDeMilo]

i disagree, zero carbs is dangerous and you will lose muscle. when pro bodybuilders prepare for a show they lose some muscle along the way because of the low car diets they go on to shred the fat. You need SOME carbs in your diet to maintain healthy brain and spinal cord function.

I am afraid you could not be farther off with this comment. Please research the ketogenic diet.

And also, with any diet you will lose muscle. It has nothing to do with the carb amount. You lose muscle because you are in a caloric deficit.

And as for carbs needed to mainain healthy brain function... also false. Once in Ketosis (running on fats for energy), your brain function is normal. And if anything, maybe a little better than normal. Because there are no ups and downs that come with spiking your insulin levels. Everything is stabalized.

[ray0414]

I am afraid you could not be farther off with this comment. Please research the ketogenic diet.

And also, with any diet you will lose muscle. It has nothing to do with the carb amount. You lose muscle because you are in a caloric deficit.

And as for carbs needed to mainain healthy brain function... also false. Once in Ketosis (running on fats for energy), your brain function is normal. And if anything, maybe a little better than normal. Because there are no ups and downs that come with spiking your insulin levels. Everything is stabalized.

Once you get your masters degree in science i will be sure to listen to you, but we were taught what i just said in college in my anatomy class by someone who is known on campus to be the best anatomy teacher at my school. your brain and spinal cord use CARBS for energy, and if its not available it dips into your muscle mass that u already have and CANNOT use protien that you have just ate, hence why the atkins diet will cause you to lose WEIGHT, becuase u are losing muscle mass. he told us about ketosis and he also told us that 100grams of carbs per day was a safe bet to make sure you arent losing any muscle.

here is an article by a competitve bodybuilder online and what he says:

2. Your carbohydrates are too low. Low carb diets are often used for fat loss, but it is a mistake to cut your carbs too drastically. Carbohydrates are protein-sparing, so even if you are eating large amounts of protein, you can still lose muscle if you your carbs are too low.

link for that article:

http://www.healthrecipes.com/muscle.htm

[j4ever41]

Once you get your masters degree in science i will be sure to listen to you, but we were taught what i just said in college in my anatomy class by someone who is known on campus to be the best anatomy teacher at my school. your brain and spinal cord use CARBS for energy, and if its not available it dips into your muscle mass that u already have and CANNOT use protien that you have just ate, hence why the atkins diet will cause you to lose WEIGHT, becuase u are losing muscle mass. he told us about ketosis and he also told us that 100grams of carbs per day was a safe bet to make sure you arent losing any muscle.

here is an article by a competitve bodybuilder online and what he says:

2. Your carbohydrates are too low. Low carb diets are often used for fat loss, but it is a mistake to cut your carbs too drastically. Carbohydrates are protein-sparing, so even if you are eating large amounts of protein, you can still lose muscle if you your carbs are too low.

link for that article:

http://www.healthrecipes.com/muscle.htm

Are you saying that the only weight that someone would lose on the atkins diet is from muscle loss?

[VeraDeMilo]

See my response in bold

Once you get your masters degree in science i will be sure to listen to you, but we were taught what i just said in college in my anatomy class by someone who is known on campus to be the best anatomy teacher at my school. lol. My friend, you should not be posting on this board if the only people you are gonna listen too are people with masters degree in science. You are in college and obviously still learning and basing your argument off of what a teacher with probably no bodbuilding experience is telling you. I'm sure if you ask him also he will tell you that your body can only utilize something like 0.72g of protein per kg of bodyweight Your brain and spinal cord use CARBS for energy, and if its not available it dips into your muscle mass that u already have and CANNOT use protien that you have just ate, hence why the atkins diet will cause you to lose WEIGHT, becuase u are losing muscle mass. Again, you could not be more false with this statement. Without carbs your body will use fats or proteins as energy. When their supply is in abundance, it will not breakdown muscle. And with enough fats, especially when your body is in ketosis, your protein will be spared as well.The fact that you are saying that weightloss one acheives from the atkins diet is stictly from loss of muscle due to low carbs also shows just how much learning you still have to do. Being in a caloric deficit is what makes you lose weight. And with the correct equation of protein and fats in relation to you daily requirements for your lean body mass and activity level, much of your bodweight loss will be from bodyfat he told us about ketosis and he also told us that 100grams of carbs per day was a safe bet to make sure you arent losing any muscle.
Again, this has to do with being in a caloric deficit, not the random number of carbs you take in


here is an article by a competitve bodybuilder online and what he says:

2. Your carbohydrates are too low. Low carb diets are often used for fat loss, but it is a mistake to cut your carbs too drastically. Carbohydrates are protein-sparing, As are fatsso even if you are eating large amounts of protein, you can still lose muscle if you your carbs are too low.or fats, or daily calory intake is too low

link for that article:

http://www.healthrecipes.com/muscle.htm

I can post hundreds of links too, but I'll let you do the research as you may learn something along the way. And just to reinforce what I said earlier. Carbs should be utilized when bulking. However, the original poster asked what was the least amount of carbs one can take in and still build muscle, to which the answer is still zero. And as someone stated earlier, there is no such thing as an essential carb