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    Got it Doc, thanks, but u think, rack lockouts can fix the pull off the floor? And how would you place this scheme into the training template?
    What about low box squat, can that also help?
    Sorry for too many questions...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madmax209 View Post
    Got it Doc, thanks, but u think, rack lockouts can fix the pull off the floor? And how would you place this scheme into the training template?
    What about low box squat, can that also help?
    Sorry for too many questions...
    many claim that low box squats with bands can help the dead. i myself never saw any gains from this

    the rack lockouts wont directly help off the floor, but if you ignore the lockouts, guess where your new weakness will be? the lockout! i learned this lesson the hard way. my weakness was off the floor so i worked off boxes for wks. went to the meet. pulled everything off the floor quick, but i missed my final and heaviest deadlift in a contest ever at lockout because i stoped doing lockouts. needless to say i was pissed at myself.

    where to place it in a training template? depends on what your plan of attack looks like. write up your plan and let me see it. i do my lockouts at the end of the dead workout. last exercise. i never start with rack deads or use it as my main max effort exercise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc.Sust View Post
    many claim that low box squats with bands can help the dead. i myself never saw any gains from this

    the rack lockouts wont directly help off the floor, but if you ignore the lockouts, guess where your new weakness will be? the lockout! i learned this lesson the hard way. my weakness was off the floor so i worked off boxes for wks. went to the meet. pulled everything off the floor quick, but i missed my final and heaviest deadlift in a contest ever at lockout because i stoped doing lockouts. needless to say i was pissed at myself.

    where to place it in a training template? depends on what your plan of attack looks like. write up your plan and let me see it. i do my lockouts at the end of the dead workout. last exercise. i never start with rack deads or use it as my main max effort exercise

    I see, just my deadlift is currently 530-540, while for lockouts I can pull about 620... Therefore I need to fix the pull off the floor. Anyway, will follow your advices.
    Well, my idea was something like this -
    ME Squat - Squat variaton, 1-3rm, followed by rep work (2x3 80% or so), some sort of pull - 1-5rm, accessories - hams, lower back, abs
    DE Squat - Speed box squat - 8-10 x 2, Goodmornings - 5rm, accessories - hams, lower back, abs
    I'm not sure, if speed squats work for me, maybe better to substitute them with some repetition work (like 5x5 or so)?
    How would you personalize that for my requests?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madmax209 View Post
    I see, just my deadlift is currently 530-540, while for lockouts I can pull about 620... Therefore I need to fix the pull off the floor. Anyway, will follow your advices.
    Well, my idea was something like this -
    ME Squat - Squat variaton, 1-3rm, followed by rep work (2x3 80% or so), some sort of pull - 1-5rm, accessories - hams, lower back, abs
    DE Squat - Speed box squat - 8-10 x 2, Goodmornings - 5rm, accessories - hams, lower back, abs
    I'm not sure, if speed squats work for me, maybe better to substitute them with some repetition work (like 5x5 or so)?
    How would you personalize that for my requests?
    try it out with rep work and i think it will work. it is basically almost what i do

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