I took them and I loved them. I dont think you will be able to cut very well on them. I used them bulking and I got a little bloat from them. I gained 15lbs in 30days and kept every pound. I also gained alot of strength. Make sure you take some supports with them though. They can be a little liver toxic as any oral is. Do you have the box with the white or yellow lettering. The white lettering are the original and the yellow lettering are the ones they produced second.