right on bros i appreciate all the info, the swelling is going down and was able to sleep on my side last night for the first itme in five days, the needle i am using is a 24G and is 1 1/2 long so i am thinking that i might have injected to fast....but damn that shi& hurt like like hell....what about using a heating pad to loosen the muscle and spread the oil around some, has anyone ever tried this and does it work