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    Quote Originally Posted by korsow View Post
    Im a socialist.. People need to do their research on what socialism is before dawgin' it. Socialism works!!. now mind you, im not talking radical Socialism, or Communism.. Im talking Canadian and European Socialism..
    bahhahaha
    it works my balls
    Take a better look at where it works.
    Scandinavian countries, take a look at the demographic there. It's near impossible to become a citizen. High natural resource to population ratio. Manditory national service requirement (yeah, that's gonna fly in the US). The school systems "sort" students by the time they're 14-17 to see who gets to go to University and who gets to go to trade school.
    France, Britian and Germany are not headed in the best direction due to immigration, and immigration related tensions.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...be-capped.html


    http://books.google.com/books?id=4FQ...um=1&ct=result


    Canada has stable population growth, vast natural resources to the North, and a huge immigration buffer to the South. They surely aren't interested in inviting millions of uninsured non-citizens to get free care in their hospitals.

    a Canadian worker on average produces only four-fifths the output of an American worker.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/...n3228735.shtml

    http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/3503/print

    http://www.eng.gees.org/articulo/325/

    Taxes choke the economy, and a solid economy is what affords a higher standard of living. The govmt can't give away resources the country isn't producing. For example Ireland cut taxes from 53% in 1986 to its current 35% , has led to a continuous boom of wealth creation at an average rate of 5.6% during the past two decades, while the number of jobs has grown by over 50%. Between 1990 and 2005 the average overall tax burden was 55% in Finland, 58% in Denmark and 61% in Sweden.

    You show me where socialism is working, and I'll show you how it isn't.

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    Canada has a nice little national debt going as well if you didn't know
    Total government debt in Canada is $2.7 trillion

    Each Canadian Taxpayer Owes $171,000 vs just under 32k per American

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kratos View Post
    bahhahaha
    it works my balls
    Take a better look at where it works.
    Scandinavian countries, take a look at the demographic there. It's near impossible to become a citizen. High natural resource to population ratio. Manditory national service requirement (yeah, that's gonna fly in the US). The school systems "sort" students by the time they're 14-17 to see who gets to go to University and who gets to go to trade school.
    The only thing you wrote that acctually fits with sweden is high natural resources. Im not sure how hard it is to get citizenship, probably not that hard. 17% of the swedish population is of foreign origin. http://www.scb.se/templates/tableOrChart____26041.asp
    In sweden the only thing mandatory is a check up to se if your fit for service and then a selection is made for those that have to serve. In reality only those that say they want to serve has to. It was different during the cold war but nowdays its a breze. The rational behind it is of course that a country with a population of only 8 million cant possibly hope to have a credible defense with only a professional army.

    The school system doesnt sort students by the age of 14-17, I dont know why you think so? Not all high school educations gives enough qulification to be able to enter university but thats hardly sorting. If anyone decides after high school that they want to go to university but doesnt have the qualifications they can go to complementary educations that are completely free just as every other level of education. A much larger problem is that the goverment has wanted to make as many as possible go to universities, stretching the resources to thin and also neglecting those that want to learn trades right away.

    The avarage american is probably more productive than the avarage european or canadian. But the average european chooses to have more vaccation etc rather than to be more productive or have higher salary. In sweden just about everyone has a minimum of 5 weeks vaccation. With my PhD here in the netherlands I have more than 7 weeks of vaccation. Not counting of course the days of for christmas, easter, new years and other national holidays.

    Im the first one to say that we need lower taxes in sweden btw. But the social democrats during the 50's-70's did wonders with the swedish economy. After that they started to turn bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kärnfysikern View Post
    The avarage american is probably more productive than the avarage european or canadian. But the average european chooses to have more vaccation etc rather than to be more productive or have higher salary. In sweden just about everyone has a minimum of 5 weeks vaccation. With my PhD here in the netherlands I have more than 7 weeks of vaccation. Not counting of course the days of for christmas, easter, new years and other national holidays.
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    Yes, they're is less pie to go around for everybody because there is less incentive to work.

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