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    Ok a couple things... first cycle stick with test e only. Winny to drain water retention=NO. You will use an AI on cycle to combat the water retention and sides you do not want. Arimidex or Aromasin will be fine. You want to bring your body fat down to the 10% area or lower for less sides. Oh yea and how old are you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flex-Appeal View Post
    Ok a couple things... first cycle stick with test e only. Winny to drain water retention=NO. You will use an AI on cycle to combat the water retention and sides you do not want. Arimidex or Aromasin will be fine. You want to bring your body fat down to the 10% area or lower for less sides. Oh yea and how old are you?
    ahh, i didnt realize its his first "real" cycle
    i agree with you. winny not needed

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    [QUOTE=Flex-Appeal;4279185] You will use an AI on cycle to combat the water retention and sides you do not want. Arimidex or Aromasin will be fine. QUOTE]

    that works. but at a simple 500mg a week test cycle. sides shouldnt be too bad. i always prefer not to run an AI during cycle. i get more gains. estrogen is needed. too much is not good, we all know that. but with a simple cycle, the risk is low that he will get too high of estrogen. i just recommend keeping an AI on hand and just pay attention to your nips, acne, bloating... etc. if you see something you dont like or cant stand. hit up the AI

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    [QUOTE=dukkitdalaw;4279199]
    Quote Originally Posted by Flex-Appeal View Post
    You will use an AI on cycle to combat the water retention and sides you do not want. Arimidex or Aromasin will be fine. QUOTE]

    that works. but at a simple 500mg a week test cycle. sides shouldnt be too bad. i always prefer not to run an AI during cycle. i get more gains. estrogen is needed. too much is not good, we all know that. but with a simple cycle, the risk is low that he will get too high of estrogen. i just recommend keeping an AI on hand and just pay attention to your nips, acne, bloating... etc. if you see something you dont like or cant stand. hit up the AI
    On second thought you are right, the test only dose is not high. Buttt if our OP happens to be gyno prone then maybe he should consider a dose at 1/2 .25 eod. Just to lower that aromatization some. But Dukkit is correct

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    [QUOTE=Flex-Appeal;4279241]
    Quote Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw View Post

    On second thought you are right, the test only dose is not high. Buttt if our OP happens to be gyno prone then maybe he should consider a dose at 1/2 .25 eod. Just to lower that aromatization some. But Dukkit is correct
    and you are correct my friend. gyno prone or other factors can affect estrogen.

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    guys, thanks so much for your responses - im shocked how fast you respond! brilliant!

    as far as the gyno goes, when i was 13 i had an op on my nipples because they were swollen and sore... had some tissue cut away... would this mean that i wont get gyno cus i had the op... or that im likely to?? hmmm...bit worried now... iv got my nolva on hand though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkitdalaw View Post

    On second thought you are right, the test only dose is not high. Buttt if our OP happens to be gyno prone then maybe he should consider a dose at 1/2 .25 eod. Just to lower that aromatization some. But Dukkit is correct
    does this mean 25mg EOD if i get symptoms?

    chuckt12345, do you think this amount of cardio is ok then and wont burn any muscle?? i was worried that the cardio would be reversing my hard training session gains!!

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrificial Steve View Post
    as far as the gyno goes, when i was 13 i had an op on my nipples because they were swollen and sore... had some tissue cut away... would this mean that i wont get gyno cus i had the op... or that im likely to?? hmmm...bit worried now... iv got my nolva on hand though.



    does this mean 25mg EOD if i get symptoms?

    chuckt12345, do you think this amount of cardio is ok then and wont burn any muscle?? i was worried that the cardio would be reversing my hard training session gains!!

    Thanks!
    well depends what AI you use. If its nolva then 20mg a day will do. if its arimidex then .25 mg will do (notice the POINT 25) and aromason is 25mg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flex-Appeal View Post
    Ok a couple things... first cycle stick with test e only. Winny to drain water retention=NO. You will use an AI on cycle to combat the water retention and sides you do not want. Arimidex or Aromasin will be fine. You want to bring your body fat down to the 10% area or lower for less sides. Oh yea and how old are you?
    sorry, totally missed this - im 22

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