A few more Clen questions before I start.

[W.I.L.L]

Well....I'm finally making my first attempt starting tomorrow with the Clen. I can't wait!

I was curious as to if someone(s) could help me with how and how much Taurine and Potassium I should take daily.

I have 500 mg caps of Taurine and 99 mg caps of Potassium. How should I go about this?

[Amorphic]

i would take 5g of taurine a day when i was running clen. i didnt take any potassium

[in2shape]

will be running clen soon why the taurine and potassium havent read this b4 ...

cheers

[Amorphic]

will be running clen soon why the taurine and potassium havent read this b4 ...

cheers

taurine prevents cramping as clen depletes taurine values in the liver.

[W.I.L.L]

Cool.

Thanks Amorphic...I was suggested the same by another member as well.

Nice avatar by the way; I see your a fan of Alex Grey?

[New2Anabolic]

Yeah, keep your doses spaced apart.
Personally speaking, the cramps can sometimes be unbearable. Calves & Neck, those are my frequent cramp areas.
Insane pain.

Taurine ftw

[hyperlite32]

i have never cramped on Clen, but better safe than sorry

[Amorphic]

Cool.

Thanks Amorphic...I was suggested the same by another member as well.

Nice avatar by the way; I see your a fan of Alex Grey?

no problem. yeah i am, amazing artwork.

[Phate]

i would take 5g of taurine a day when i was running clen. i didnt take any potassium

agreed as always^^^^

i've never cramped on clen and have run doses up to around 350-400mcg/day, though i wouldn't advise going over 160-180mcg/day

how are you going to run it? straight 6-8 weeks, 2 on 2 off?

for the best results i would split into 2-3 doses throughout the day, taking it no later than 5 so you can sleep

btw, lets see the diet

[W.I.L.L]

Well....

I've been having some ideas about how to maybe go about this, here's a couple and you tell me what you think:

Since I KNOW I will react to Clen VERY WELL (I do with just about any chemical) I was thinking of going 3 weeks straight with it and then taking benny through the 3rd week. I was going to play it by ear after that to see where it will put me.

Or, I was also thinking about taking a very slow tapering schedule; skipping a day in between intervals. Such as, first day taking 20mcg, skip a day, next day take 40 mcg, skip a day and so forth up to 120 mcg or until intolerance. This method would probably go into the 6 week time period.

As far as diet, this what I have been on for the the last 3 weeks, and I must admit it has worked, but I have cheated a little TOO much on the weekends. None the less, it is working great:

Breakfast:

1 cup of oatmeal
1 piece of fruit (banana, pear or apple)
ON protein shake (50g)
1-2 slices of whole wheat bread
1 TBSP of Flax seed oil

MEAL 2

Turkey sandwich on whole wheat
1 cup broccoli, one carrot
1 cup fruit

MEAL 3

8oz chicken breast
1 cup wheat pasta or brown rice
1 small plain salad (mixed veggies)

MEAL 4 (preworkout)

8oz chicken breast
1 cup broc.
1 piece fruit
1 cup wheat pasta or brown rice
1 TBSP of Flax seed oil
1 small salad, mixed veggies


I also hit 1.5 scoops of NO EXPLODE before I hit the gym.

MEAL 5

8oz chicken breast
1 cup broc.
1 cup wheat pasta or brown rice
1/2 cup of apple sauce

MEAL 6

ON protein shake


Now...starting this week, I'm going to do what I guess I could call a hybrid, keto diet. I'm using BIG TEXAN'S cutting keto diet with a few carb addtions:


MEAL #1
SAME AS MEAL #1 IN MY CURRENT DIET

MEAL #2
SHAKE: 50g Whey Protein with 1 ? tablespoon of All Natural Peanut butter (no sugar)

MEAL #3
"Lean Protein Meal": 8oz chicken with 1/2-cup cashew nuts (almonds, or walnuts)

MEAL #4 (pre workout)
SHAKE: 50g Whey Protein with 1 ? tablespoons of All Natural Peanut butter (no sugar added)**adding**one cup of organic whole wheat pasta and organic spinach.

MEAL #5 (post workout)
"Fatty Protein Meal": 8oz Salmon, Swordfish, or RED MEAT with a green salad (no tomatoes, carrots, or red peppers) with 1 tablespoon of Olive Oil or Macadamia nut oil and vinegar **adding**1/2 cup of apple sauce

MEAL #6
SHAKE: 50g Whey with 1 ? tablespoon all natural peanut butter or 4 whole (*****-3) eggs and 4 extra whites

Is there anything wrong with doing this? Also, here is my thread I posted with my pics in Oct. I now am bigger and slightly leaner now so....tell me where I stand if my thinking is wrong in any sense.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=363351

Thank a lot gentlemen!

[Phate]

Well....

I've been having some ideas about how to maybe go about this, here's a couple and you tell me what you think:

Since I KNOW I will react to Clen VERY WELL (I do with just about any chemical) I was thinking of going 3 weeks straight with it and then taking benny through the 3rd week. I was going to play it by ear after that to see where it will put me.

Or, I was also thinking about taking a very slow tapering schedule; skipping a day in between intervals. Such as, first day taking 20mcg, skip a day, next day take 40 mcg, skip a day and so forth up to 120 mcg or until intolerance.

As far as diet, this what I have been on for the the last 3 weeks, and I must admit it has worked, but I have cheated a little TOO much on the weekends. None the less, it is working great:

Breakfast:

1 cup of oatmeal
1 piece of fruit (banana, pear or apple)
ON protein shake (50g)
1-2 slices of whole wheat bread
1 TBSP of Flax seed oil

MEAL 2

Turkey sandwich on whole wheat
1 cup broccoli, one carrot
1 cup fruit

MEAL 3

8oz chicken breast
1 cup wheat pasta or brown rice
1 small plain salad (mixed veggies)

MEAL 4 (preworkout)

8oz chicken breast
1 cup broc.
1 piece fruit
1 cup wheat pasta or brown rice
1 TBSP of Flax seed oil
1 small salad, mixed veggies


I also hit 1.5 scoops of NO EXPLODE before I hit the gym.

MEAL 5

8oz chicken breast
1 cup broc.
1 cup wheat pasta or brown rice
1/2 cup of apple sauce

MEAL 6

ON protein shake


Now...starting this week, I'm going to do what I guess I could call a hybrid, keto diet. I'm using BIG TEXAN'S cutting keto diet with a few carb addtions:


MEAL #1
SAME AS MEAL #1 IN MY CURRENT DIET

MEAL #2
SHAKE: 50g Whey Protein with 1 ? tablespoon of All Natural Peanut butter (no sugar)

MEAL #3
"Lean Protein Meal": 8oz chicken with 1/2-cup cashew nuts (almonds, or walnuts)

MEAL #4 (pre workout)
SHAKE: 50g Whey Protein with 1 ? tablespoons of All Natural Peanut butter (no sugar added)**adding**one cup of organic whole wheat pasta and organic spinach.

MEAL #5 (post workout)
"Fatty Protein Meal": 8oz Salmon, Swordfish, or RED MEAT with a green salad (no tomatoes, carrots, or red peppers) with 1 tablespoon of Olive Oil or Macadamia nut oil and vinegar **adding**1/2 cup of apple sauce

MEAL #6
SHAKE: 50g Whey with 1 ? tablespoon all natural peanut butter or 4 whole (*****-3) eggs and 4 extra whites

Is there anything wrong with doing this? Also, here is my thread I posted with my pics in Oct. I now am bigger and slightly leaner now so....tell me where I stand if my thinking is wrong in any sense.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=363351

Thank a lot gentlemen!

i'll critique tomorrow, time to go to bed

[W.I.L.L]

LOL! Thanks for all the help buddy!

[inky-e]

i have never cramped on Clen, but better safe than sorry

Hahaha I HAVE and its fukkin hellacious!

[Phate]

Well....

I've been having some ideas about how to maybe go about this, here's a couple and you tell me what you think:

Since I KNOW I will react to Clen VERY WELL (I do with just about any chemical) I was thinking of going 3 weeks straight with it and then taking benny through the 3rd week. I was going to play it by ear after that to see where it will put me.

Or, I was also thinking about taking a very slow tapering schedule; skipping a day in between intervals. Such as, first day taking 20mcg, skip a day, next day take 40 mcg, skip a day and so forth up to 120 mcg or until intolerance. This method would probably go into the 6 week time period.

As far as diet, this what I have been on for the the last 3 weeks, and I must admit it has worked, but I have cheated a little TOO much on the weekends. None the less, it is working great:

Breakfast:

1 cup of oatmeal
1 piece of fruit (banana, pear or apple)
ON protein shake (50g)
1-2 slices of whole wheat bread
1 TBSP of Flax seed oil
this is okay
MEAL 2

Turkey sandwich on whole wheat
1 cup broccoli, one carrot
1 cup fruit
sandwich is if in a bind, i would sub in red or sweet potatoes and some chicken if possible and cut the fruit
MEAL 3

8oz chicken breast
1 cup wheat pasta or brown rice
1 small plain salad (mixed veggies)
not bad
MEAL 4 (preworkout)

8oz chicken breast
1 cup broc.
1 piece fruit
1 cup wheat pasta or brown rice
1 TBSP of Flax seed oil
1 small salad, mixed veggies
cut the fruit, you don't need it, other stuff is okay

I also hit 1.5 scoops of NO EXPLODE before I hit the gym.

MEAL 5

8oz chicken breast
1 cup broc.
1 cup wheat pasta or brown rice
1/2 cup of apple sauce
this is okay, but i would cut the rice for sweet potatoes and add somemore chicken
MEAL 6

ON protein shake
whey will do nothing before bed as it digests in 45 minutes, casein protein, cottage cheese or something dairy before bed for a longer lasting protein

Now...starting this week, I'm going to do what I guess I could call a hybrid, keto diet. I'm using BIG TEXAN'S cutting keto diet with a few carb addtions:


MEAL #1
SAME AS MEAL #1 IN MY CURRENT DIET

MEAL #2
SHAKE: 50g Whey Protein with 1 ? tablespoon of All Natural Peanut butter (no sugar)

MEAL #3
"Lean Protein Meal": 8oz chicken with 1/2-cup cashew nuts (almonds, or walnuts)

MEAL #4 (pre workout)
SHAKE: 50g Whey Protein with 1 ? tablespoons of All Natural Peanut butter (no sugar added)**adding**one cup of organic whole wheat pasta and organic spinach.

MEAL #5 (post workout)
"Fatty Protein Meal": 8oz Salmon, Swordfish, or RED MEAT with a green salad (no tomatoes, carrots, or red peppers) with 1 tablespoon of Olive Oil or Macadamia nut oil and vinegar **adding**1/2 cup of apple sauce

MEAL #6
SHAKE: 50g Whey with 1 ? tablespoon all natural peanut butter or 4 whole (*****-3) eggs and 4 extra whites

Is there anything wrong with doing this? Also, here is my thread I posted with my pics in Oct. I now am bigger and slightly leaner now so....tell me where I stand if my thinking is wrong in any sense.

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=363351

Thank a lot gentlemen!

i trust big texan so if you are following his diet you are in good shape

[W.I.L.L]

Thanks for critique sir. I'll follow up in about a month and post my changes.

[Cassano]

better takin the taurine than goin without, ive cramped while takin a piss when on clen and it wasnt pleasant!

a bannana or 2 a day are good for potassium.