acupuncture, massage, chiropractic...

[thegodfather]

Sounds like a good idea...Just be careful with the chiropractors, they are one step from being a witch doctor. They are ok as far as joints and some injury's are concerned, but thats where it ends as far as their accurate practical knowledge is concerned. The rest of their "theorys" are a joke in the allopathic community.

[StoneGRMI]

Sounds like a good idea...Just be careful with the chiropractors, they are one step from being a witch doctor. They are ok as far as joints and some injury's are concerned, but thats where it ends as far as their accurate practical knowledge is concerned. The rest of their "theorys" are a joke in the allopathic community.

Source of information? Been to a witchdoctor and then a chiropractor to compare? Why did you go to a witchdoctor anyway? Generalization isn't the best way to practice living.

Go to a Chiropractor just like you would go to a family doctor, lawyer, barber, contractor, mechanic...etc. By that I mean, do your research! Get good referral from someone you trust. Find out witch school they went to! You wouldn't walk into brain surgery without knowing something about your doctor nor would you build a home without knowing something about your builder.

[thegodfather]

Source of information? Been to a witchdoctor and then a chiropractor to compare? Why did you go to a witchdoctor anyway? Generalization isn't the best way to practice living.

Go to a Chiropractor just like you would go to a family doctor, lawyer, barber, contractor, mechanic...etc. By that I mean, do your research! Get good referral from someone you trust. Find out witch school they went to! You wouldn't walk into brain surgery without knowing something about your doctor nor would you build a home without knowing something about your builder.

I dont need a source of information to back up an opinion. I was obviously taking a jab at chiropractors. You dont goto a chiropractor like you would a doctor or a lawyer. An MD/DO and JD are legitimate professions with a long standing proven track record. I have used chiropractors in the past, and they are great if you have a minor injury to a joint/muscle, but they are good for little more then that. If you have investigated the full theory of chiropractic, like using chiropractic to treat/cure things other than joint/muscle injury's, it will become appearent to you just how out there their "profession" is. There are only a handful of chiropractic schools in the United States, and not a single one is affiliated with a state or private university, so what does that tell you?

[RockyX]

Sorry had to throw in my two cents here as I am going to a chiropractic college. I don't really think that our "theory" is that wacky. We operate on the idea that the body heals itself. The majority of what we do is injury work, I will agree with you there. The theory of chiropractic says that your body will tell you what it needs, so if you are in pain...there is an underlying problem causing that pain. If your check engine light came on in your vehicle, would you simply put a sticky note over it (medication) or would you open up the hood and figure out what the problem is? Chiropractic is about finding the root of certain problems and fixing them, and its not always through adjustment and there are times when referral is warranted because it just is simply not a chiropractic case. But Chiropractic has been around for over 100 years, and has healed many. There are documented cases (see Good Morning America roughly 8 months ago) with chiropractic adjustments significantly lowering blood pressure for time periods exceeding 8 weeks. I also don't think it is fair to say we lack accurate practical knowledge. To become a chiropractor you are looking at 7 years of college, the last 3 being the actual chiropractic graduate schooling, where you take as many as 30 hours a trimester and never fewer than 28. This amounts to me being at school Mon-Fri from 7 am to 5 pm. We take numerous courses in Pathology, Microbiology, Neurology, Laboratory Diagnosis, and Bio Chemistry as well as our Anatomy, Physiology, Radiology, and Adjusting courses. Many of said courses are taught by Medical Doctors. We take both national and state board examinations as do Medical doctors, and must recieve numerous hours per year of continuing education. Parker College of Chiropractic has its own research facility but is also affiliated with both Harvard and Yale's reasearch institutes. If you have any questions I would be glad to answer them, just like to clear up some of the ignorance out there regarding chiropractic..

[jim37]

I dont need a source of information to back up an opinion. I was obviously taking a jab at chiropractors. You dont goto a chiropractor like you would a doctor or a lawyer. An MD/DO and JD are legitimate professions with a long standing proven track record. I have used chiropractors in the past, and they are great if you have a minor injury to a joint/muscle, but they are good for little more then that. If you have investigated the full theory of chiropractic, like using chiropractic to treat/cure things other than joint/muscle injury's, it will become appearent to you just how out there their "profession" is. There are only a handful of chiropractic schools in the United States, and not a single one is affiliated with a state or private university, so what does that tell you?

i think you are definitely have roots in the allopathic profession somewhere. just because we are not tied to a university does not mean that schools aren't legit. all chiro. schools in the us are accredited by goverment boards. all chiropractors take certification boards!!! actually four of them before licensing!!! i guess in your head since we don't drug society and kill people in surgery we are not legit. chiros malpractice insurance for the year is what md/do's pay per month!!!!!!!!! HMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!! That says a lot to me!!! we dont kill or maime people!!!!

[thegodfather]

i think you are definitely have roots in the allopathic profession somewhere. just because we are not tied to a university does not mean that schools aren't legit. all chiro. schools in the us are accredited by goverment boards. all chiropractors take certification boards!!! actually four of them before licensing!!! i guess in your head since we don't drug society and kill people in surgery we are not legit. chiros malpractice insurance for the year is what md/do's pay per month!!!!!!!!! HMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!! That says a lot to me!!! we dont kill or maime people!!!!

Your schools are for profit institutions. After HEAL was established, wasn't it Palmer or Life U that tripled their tuition in a short time period, because they knew studets could pay more. Additionally, what legitimate medical practice needs to use high pressure sales tactics to keep its customers coming back(alot of DC offices do this). I'll give credit where credit is due, it is a great first step before pursuing things like surgery or constant medication for an injury, and insurance companies have begun to cover some chiropractic. However, if it is such a legitimate and great profession, why are DC students some of the most indebted under HEAL and the worst in defaulting on thier loans?


http://www.scienceblog.com/community...A/hhs1124.html

The loans are guaranteed by the federal government -- meaning the federal government must pay the banks if students default.

Chiropractic students have the poorest record of payments, and the five schools with the largest number of defaulters are chiropractic schools.

Cleveland Chiropractic School has $4million plus dollars in default...

http://www.defaulteddocs.dhhs.gov/school.asp?PAGE=2

[MuscleScience]

Your schools are for profit institutions. After HEAL was established, wasn't it Palmer or Life U that tripled their tuition in a short time period, because they knew studets could pay more. Additionally, what legitimate medical practice needs to use high pressure sales tactics to keep its customers coming back(alot of DC offices do this). I'll give credit where credit is due, it is a great first step before pursuing things like surgery or constant medication for an injury, and insurance companies have begun to cover some chiropractic. However, if it is such a legitimate and great profession, why are DC students some of the most indebted under HEAL and the worst in defaulting on thier loans?


http://www.scienceblog.com/community...A/hhs1124.html




Cleveland Chiropractic School has $4million plus dollars in default...

http://www.defaulteddocs.dhhs.gov/school.asp?PAGE=2

They default because students are not taught how to run a business. That is were all the trouble lies. Over 60% of chiropractors have their own clinics. It is hard to run a practice and a lot of people just dont have the talent to do it. Just as many MD's would default to if they tried to open their own clinic instead of joining a medical group.

You should look up Wilkes vs AMA and you will see where the residual allopathic bias is coming from.

The best thing that every happened to me is when my orthopedist sent me to a Chiropractor to help with my Chronic ankle sprains. She knew she couldnt help me after her treating me and two broken legs later. Suddenly with the right treatments I havent had an ankle sprain in five years.

This all coming from someone with a biomedical background mind you.

[jim37]

Sounds like a good idea...Just be careful with the chiropractors, they are one step from being a witch doctor. They are ok as far as joints and some injury's are concerned, but thats where it ends as far as their accurate practical knowledge is concerned. The rest of their "theorys" are a joke in the allopathic community.

thanks for that generalization!!!! i am a chiro. and you are rude. you are most likely basing your knowledge of chiro. on a bad experience. please dont judge a whole profession from a few experiences you have had.