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    Quote Originally Posted by gstatefaith View Post
    Phate, thanks a lot for your response, your help is priceless....I'm going to have to ask him to write down his diet...I'm assuming he has it in check because he must be doing something right based on his physique right now.
    depends, if he is an ectomorph or ****morph then his diet could be pretty bad and his physique could still look good, some people are just blessed, not saying his diet sucks or anything
    You are right about the drug testing, he is worried about that but with his sport, he plans his matches (Boxing) and can train for a year without booking a fight, but any info on drug testing and Test is appreciated.
    i would look into test prop, it has to be injected everyday, but prop will peak in under a week as opposed to test enth/cyp taking 4-5 weeks to reach peak blood levels, prop is also out of your system alot faster due to a short ester and he would only have to cycle for 6-8 weeks, plus there would be less bloat and water retention, something to look into
    So you think the HCG is over the top? yeah I don't really understand the take adex as needed? you will get mixed opinions on this, some people run it all the way through, some as needed, if you want to run it all the way through then run it at .25mg eod to start, but what it is mainly used for DURING cycle is to keep bloat, water retention, blood pressure and such down Only when you see signs of gyno developing take it? I hear many take it ED as to not even start seeing signs, but I understand it can mess with your gains while on cycle.

    And HCG is over the top i take it for this type of cycle?
    yeah, have him write down EVERYTHING he eats tomorrow and the next day and post it, tell him to act like he's on cycle because there is normally a big difference between the diet someone writes on paper and what they actually eat during the day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phate View Post
    yeah, have him write down EVERYTHING he eats tomorrow and the next day and post it, tell him to act like he's on cycle because there is normally a big difference between the diet someone writes on paper and what they actually eat during the day
    will do..thanks again, i'm gonna have to look into test prop...i've been hearing test e is the best for a first cycle, but will research prop..hopefully it has similar effects on gains/body fat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gstatefaith View Post
    will do..thanks again, i'm gonna have to look into test prop...i've been hearing test e is the best for a first cycle, but will research prop..hopefully it has similar effects on gains/body fat.
    test is test bro, the only difference is the ester attached, the longer the ester the longer it takes your body to break it down and release the testosterone

    in 100mg of test enth there is only 69.9mg of testosterone, the other 30.1mg is the enanthate ester, that's why you only have to inject every 3.5days, the test is released more slowly

    prop on the other hand has i believe around 80-85mg of test and only 10-15mg of ester per 100mg

    btw, most experienced people on here prefer prop because of the advantages over enth
    1) less bloat, water retention
    2) kicks in almost immediately
    3) more actually test
    etc...

    we just recommend enth/cyp for beginners because until you get used to pinning, the prospect of doing it daily is not exactly comforting, lol, or in the case of professional athletes that use test suspension(no ester), the prospect of injecting up to 6x a day is very uncomfortable

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    sweet...prop sounds way better...even though he has never cycled, i'm sure he wouldn't mind pinning everyday..he faces way scarier stuff in the ring. Thanks for the info...sounds like prop is the way to go.

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