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    dont really think 16 weeks is necessary first run and all.. 12 would be fine.
    adex through cycle would be fine
    read some of the stickies in the pct forum and learn about..anti-e's... AI's/serms..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulciber View Post
    dont really think 16 weeks is necessary first run and all.. 12 would be fine.
    adex through cycle would be fine
    read some of the stickies in the pct forum and learn about..anti-e's... AI's/serms..

    well several people told me after 12 weeks is when the test really starts to kick in, so thats y they say do 16 weeks.

    this is what i found for AI's and serms : written by one8nine

    AI – The male body naturally wants a 10:1 ratio of testosterone to estrogen. Normal men have about 10mg and 1mg of estrogen every day. Testosterone is produced, and then converted into estrogen in the aromatize enzyme. Just as an example, if one’s Testosterone levels rise to 100mg in one day, one’s body will try to appease that 10:1 ratio and have 10mg of estrogen. Now, with 10mg of estrogen you have the same amount of estrogen as an average woman. An AI greatly reduces or stops this conversion by suppressing aromatize enzymes. Examples: Letrozole, Arimidex, Aromasin, and Proviron

    SERM – One can basically think of these as empty placeholders, they look close enough to estrogen that they fill the spots in the tissues that estrogen want to park, so your body will not be able to get signal from the estrogen, effectively giving you time to rid your body of these nasty hormones before they have any devastating effects. Ex: Nolvadex



    SOOOO Adex should be fine for my PCT. and i should keep a thing of nova around druing my cycle encase gyno pops up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebeast71 View Post
    well several people told me after 12 weeks is when the test really starts to kick in, so thats y they say do 16 weeks.

    this is what i found for AI's and serms : written by one8nine

    AI – The male body naturally wants a 10:1 ratio of testosterone to estrogen. Normal men have about 10mg and 1mg of estrogen every day. Testosterone is produced, and then converted into estrogen in the aromatize enzyme. Just as an example, if one’s Testosterone levels rise to 100mg in one day, one’s body will try to appease that 10:1 ratio and have 10mg of estrogen. Now, with 10mg of estrogen you have the same amount of estrogen as an average woman. An AI greatly reduces or stops this conversion by suppressing aromatize enzymes. Examples: Letrozole, Arimidex, Aromasin, and Proviron

    SERM – One can basically think of these as empty placeholders, they look close enough to estrogen that they fill the spots in the tissues that estrogen want to park, so your body will not be able to get signal from the estrogen, effectively giving you time to rid your body of these nasty hormones before they have any devastating effects. Ex: Nolvadex



    SOOOO Adex should be fine for my PCT. and i should keep a thing of nova around druing my cycle encase gyno pops up?
    After twelve wks is when it starts to level off and gains start too slow, so you were told wrong mate.
    I would take whatever you read by 189 with a large pinch of salt.

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