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    Quote Originally Posted by A2thej2008 View Post
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    4 cups of skim milk and 2 teaspoons of EVO added a scoop of BCAA's and some cinnamon and splenda and a dash of nutmeg for my Post cardio drink

    this is 40 grams protein 52 grams carbs and 10grams of fat
    Easy on the milk there man, wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Bino View Post
    Easy on the milk there man, wow.
    why do you say that??? i really dont have alot of milk to often and i felt like using some up, it fit into my macro's and really doesnt bloat me, and its winter so im not worried about the SOFT look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A2thej2008 View Post
    why do you say that??? i really dont have alot of milk to often and i felt like using some up, it fit into my macro's and really doesnt bloat me, and its winter so im not worried about the SOFT look.
    Not everything we eat should just be accepted because it fits into our macro's or because the bloat doesnt matter.

    You are drinking milk from another animal, which you are not naturally designed to drink, you lack the enzymes for it unless you force your body to produce them. Any milk you buy is flash heated destroying all natural enzymes and bacteria and vitamins and also milk is mucus forming, increasing risk or viral and bacterial infections and respiratory problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Bino View Post
    Not everything we eat should just be accepted because it fits into our macro's or because the bloat doesnt matter.

    You are drinking milk from another animal, which you are not naturally designed to drink, you lack the enzymes for it unless you force your body to produce them. Any milk you buy is flash heated destroying all natural enzymes and bacteria and vitamins and also milk is mucus forming, increasing risk or viral and bacterial infections and respiratory problems.
    I agree with your statement about ALL dairy... but it's such a good bulker :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Bino View Post
    Not everything we eat should just be accepted because it fits into our macro's or because the bloat doesnt matter.

    You are drinking milk from another animal, which you are not naturally designed to drink, you lack the enzymes for it unless you force your body to produce them. Any milk you buy is flash heated destroying all natural enzymes and bacteria and vitamins and also milk is mucus forming, increasing risk or viral and bacterial infections and respiratory problems.
    The concept of what humans "were designed for" is not a very useful one. You could say "force our body to produce them"...I would say it is just as correct to say "stimulate" rather than force. No one uses the phrase "Force your muscles to grow" in a negative way to refer to the practice of lifting weights.

    Humans have consumed non-human milk for literally thousands of years. Humans were not designed to have kidney transplants, drink fluoridated water or take antibiotics (simply dying due to infection worked for the species for untold millenia). It doesn't imply those things are bad for us.

    If there is specific evidence that drinking milk causes susceptibility to certain infections I would be interested to hear about it. I am not saying there is no such evidence, but I have not heard it.

    If the argument is to replace it with water, what is the point of criticizing it based on lacks, becuase of pasteurization, vitamins, bacteria and enzymes?
    Last edited by BrokenBricks; 12-19-2008 at 11:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenBricks View Post
    The concept of what humans "were designed for" is not a very useful one. You could say "force our body to produce them"...I would say it is just as correct to say "stimulate" rather than force. No one uses the phrase "Force your muscles to grow" in a negative way to refer to the practice of lifting weights.

    Not useful? So than what is a usefull/acceptable answer? The fact that our bodies STOP producing the enzyme to digest milk at around the age of 5 is not useful? LOL ok so if milk is so useful and good for us why is it our bodies do this?

    Humans have consumed non-human milk for literally thousands of years. Humans were not designed to have kidney transplants, drink fluoridated water or take antibiotics (simply dying due to infection worked for the species for untold millenia). It doesn't imply those things are bad for us.

    Wow...you actually think flouride is good for you...or antibiotics? Sorry but I dont even know why I should bother setting this all straight for you if you dont even know those things. The point is, we would not need kidney transplants or antibiotics etc if we actually nourished our bodies properly and ate nutrient dense foods...ie NOT milk.

    If there is specific evidence that drinking milk causes susceptibility to certain infections I would be interested to hear about it. I am not saying there is no such evidence, but I have not heard it.

    There is absolutely no arguing that dairy/milk is mucus forming and is one of if not THE most prominent allergy in north america. Things that are mucus forming cause bronchial distress and trap more bacteria and viruses which your body normally wouldnt be trapping save for the fact that you are creating much more mucus by consuming these products.

    If the argument is to replace it with water, what is the point of criticizing it based on lacks, becuase of pasteurization, vitamins, bacteria and enzymes?

    Read about mucus forming action.
    Go ahead and keep drinking milk, I have it once in a while too. But dont be fooled into thinking its doing you a lot of good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Bino View Post
    Wow...you actually think flouride is good for you...or antibiotics? Sorry but I dont even know why I should bother setting this all straight for you if you dont even know those things. The point is, we would not need kidney transplants or antibiotics etc if we actually nourished our bodies properly and ate nutrient dense foods...ie NOT milk.
    I want to focus on one bit here. I'll leave aside arguing the rest, other than to say that we stop producing lactose is simply untrue. Some people do. Other don't. Like most positive genetic traits, the genes to confer the persistence of lactase production is dominant. Intolerance is recessive.

    The idea that if we ate better foods we would be free of disease is representative of a general trend of quasi-religious fetishism of nature.

    People have been at the mercy of infectious diseases throughout recorded history. The Black Death, it's not an African American heavy metal band. How anyone could look at antibiotics as a bad thing is remarkable. Women getting urinary tract infections, STDs, bacterial meningitis in infants...there is no evidence to think any of these diseases would significantly be reduced in prevalence regardless of diet. These diseases have been around, documented in medical texts, for thousands of years.

    They say people who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. Who wants to go back a mere 100 years, before antibiotics were available, before processed foods.....when the average life expectancy was *less than 40*.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrokenBricks View Post
    I want to focus on one bit here. I'll leave aside arguing the rest, other than to say that we stop producing lactose is simply untrue. Some people do. Other don't. Like most positive genetic traits, the genes to confer the persistence of lactase production is dominant. Intolerance is recessive.

    The idea that if we ate better foods we would be free of disease is representative of a general trend of quasi-religious fetishism of nature.

    People have been at the mercy of infectious diseases throughout recorded history. The Black Death, it's not an African American heavy metal band. How anyone could look at antibiotics as a bad thing is remarkable. Women getting urinary tract infections, STDs, bacterial meningitis in infants...there is no evidence to think any of these diseases would significantly be reduced in prevalence regardless of diet. These diseases have been around, documented in medical texts, for thousands of years.

    They say people who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. Who wants to go back a mere 100 years, before antibiotics were available, before processed foods.....when the average life expectancy was *less than 40*.
    The point is that medicines should be a last ditch effort. Drugs are not natural, take for example a UTI as you mentioned.

    Do you think you have a UTI because your body is LACKING a MAN MADE antibiotic? No way.

    Than, go ahead and take the antibiotic and blow away all the good bacteria in your body and be at risk for a yeast infection or other fungual infections.

    And how in the world is saying that with proper nutrition you wont need medicines being religious? LOL you are stretching things way too far. If you keep your body in a highly alkaline state through a highly nutrient dense diet it is VERY hard for ANY disease, even cancer to manifest.

    If the black death was such a problem and couldnt be solved without your antibiotics or drugs than tell me why almost 90% of ALL cases disappeared without any mass immunization of vaccination?

    Anyway, no point in arguing with you. You think flouride is good for us, so you might as well be one of the other mindless zombies walking around believing everything the Govt and Doctors tell you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by C_Bino View Post
    Not everything we eat should just be accepted because it fits into our macro's or because the bloat doesnt matter.

    You are drinking milk from another animal, which you are not naturally designed to drink, you lack the enzymes for it unless you force your body to produce them. Any milk you buy is flash heated destroying all natural enzymes and bacteria and vitamins and also milk is mucus forming, increasing risk or viral and bacterial infections and respiratory problems.
    do you recommend i do not have milk? or dairy in general? i could exclude milk from my diet but i would prefer not to. Also, cottage cheese is a great casein protein which i consume every night before bed?
    what do you use for casein?

    -AJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by A2thej2008 View Post
    do you recommend i do not have milk? or dairy in general? i could exclude milk from my diet but i would prefer not to. Also, cottage cheese is a great casein protein which i consume every night before bed?
    what do you use for casein?

    -AJ
    Hey man everyone is free to do as they please. Its not like the milk will kill you, unless you have a severe allergy etc. Im just saying there really isnt any great benefit from it.

    I dont take in casein protein. I just eat 7 meals each day of good old whole foods and supplements with BCAA's a lot as well.

    You want a protein source that takes a while to assimilate amino acids from? Eat some beef.

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    2 10oz chicken breasts 6oz rice and 3 cups milk =) 1g flax seed capsul

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