First cycle

[muhammad1185]

eod injections for a first cycle? reli not sumit i would recommend for first timers. and dbol, bro dont even bother with the dbol, its useless, quick short term gains, water weight, and bad sides, thats my opinion. like whats the point in feeling strong for 6 weeks and looking good, and loosing it all after.

youd be better off taking deca, test e alone is also very effective for first cycles.
and as for pct make the recommended changes and take a dex 0.25 every day while on cycle if needed.

[BigBrucie]

eod injections for a first cycle? reli not sumit i would recommend for first timers. and dbol, bro dont even bother with the dbol, its useless, quick short term gains, water weight, and bad sides, thats my opinion. like whats the point in feeling strong for 6 weeks and looking good, and loosing it all after.

youd be better off taking deca, test e alone is also very effective for first cycles.
and as for pct make the recommended changes and take a dex 0.25 every day while on cycle if needed.

you see thats point of me taking d-bol feeling strong for 5 weeks till test kicks in. i wont lose all d-bol gains because then test would kick in and there will be PCT. the reason for d-bol is for strength.

deca i feel to strong a drug for my first cycle the risk of completely shutting down test is something i am trying to avoid so there is no crash.

iv also decided to take out arimidex (but will keep it at hand to be safe)
and taking Hcg into consideration

[BigBrucie]

eod injections for a first cycle? reli not sumit i would recommend for first timers. and dbol, bro dont even bother with the dbol, its useless, quick short term gains, water weight, and bad sides, thats my opinion. like whats the point in feeling strong for 6 weeks and looking good, and loosing it all after.

youd be better off taking deca, test e alone is also very effective for first cycles.
and as for pct make the recommended changes and take a dex 0.25 every day while on cycle if needed.

eod injections?

[BigBrucie]

ok here new cycle any change welcome

test cyp 10/wk @ 400mg
D-bol 1-4/wk @ 30mg

pct:
HCG wk/11@500iu (3 shots monday/wednesday/friday)
Nolvadex @20/20/20/20 (week 14-17)
Clomid @ 100/50/50/50 (week 13-16)
LIV.52

arimidex at hand for gyno

[nath78]

ok here new cycle any change welcome

test cyp 12/wk @ 400mg
D-bol 1-4/wk @ 30mg

pct:
HCG wk/13@500iu (3 shots monday/wednesday/friday)
Nolvadex @20/20/20/20 (week 14-17)
Clomid @ 100/50/50/50 (week 14-17)
LIV.52

arimidex at hand for gyno

test cyp requires you to start pct 2 weeks after last injection

other than that it looks alright,im runnin the same cycle just using test e but am running 40mg of dbol ed (well 20mg of androl and 20mg of dbol)not ideal but ive got a couple of each look. and running 500mg of test a wk,but thats up to you,looks good though.

as for pct im just using just clomid and nolva.

[BigBrucie]

test cyp requires you to start pct 2 weeks after last injection

other than that it looks alright,im runnin the same cycle just using test e but am running 40mg of dbol ed (well 20mg of androl and 20mg of dbol)not ideal but ive got a couple of each look. and running 500mg of test a wk,but thats up to you,looks good though.

as for pct im just using just clomid and nolva.

i know im only starting HCG straight after and from what iv read with HCG u are required to take nolva
500mg is stable and much used dosage but iv heard god things about 400mg and im sure as its first cycle 400 will get plenty gains
how many weeks are u running test E
also have u had previous cycle experience, becouse HCG is only problem i dont really know if its necessary as im not certion that a simple test and dbol cycle couse testicular atrophy to such a vast degree also it is pricey?
if you had good results with just clomid and nolva and kept gains let me know i might then drop HCG