How quickly is roid mass and strength lost?

[vishus]

i just ended my first cycle and ive read that you NEED to keep training intensly, not necessarily with the same weights while on cycle, but with same intensity and keep calories up too, to make sure most mass isnt lost. i guess ill have to wait and see

[Ajinra]

thanks for the discussion bros. its good to hear personal experiences from people that have been there. as you can guess, i havent been there... yet

[Whoisdaman]

I would like to meet the man that was able to keep the exact same intensity, and more importantly, same internal anabolic environment 5-10 years after he quit AAS. If you think that you can keep 100%... 80%... better yet... 40% of your gains years down the road after going cold turkey off of pure 10x test levels then you have another thing coming.

I am just excited that I am able to get some pumps and gains at all after stopping for a while, but after running my 10th or so cycle I know that to keep the peak size then I would have to stick with it.

But hey, just be happy that you are fit and have your health.

Not trying to bum you out. If anyone has quit and is able to keep peaked test levels post-cycle then congrats. But I must say... if you really are able to do that... then why run steroids in the first place?

[bahrianite]

I would like to meet the man that was able to keep the exact same intensity, and more importantly, same internal anabolic environment 5-10 years after he quit AAS. If you think that you can keep 100%... 80%... better yet... 40% of your gains years down the road after going cold turkey off of pure 10x test levels then you have another thing coming.

I am just excited that I am able to get some pumps and gains at all after stopping for a while, but after running my 10th or so cycle I know that to keep the peak size then I would have to stick with it.

But hey, just be happy that you are fit and have your health.

Not trying to bum you out. If anyone has quit and is able to keep peaked test levels post-cycle then congrats. But I must say... if you really are able to do that... then why run steroids in the first place?

if some one gained 20 lbs from a cycle,then does pct,now 4 months later he has managed to keep 10 lbs out of those 20 gained,you mean to say he cant keep even those 10 lbs if he continues to lift and diet correctly.that is defantly not the case.

although one wont be in the same peak position but to say he would be a total gonner without steroids is IMO wrong.not trying to flame or heat things up.just giving my view.

[Deltasaurus]

I would like to meet the man that was able to keep the exact same intensity, and more importantly, same internal anabolic environment 5-10 years after he quit AAS. If you think that you can keep 100%... 80%... better yet... 40% of your gains years down the road after going cold turkey off of pure 10x test levels then you have another thing coming.

I am just excited that I am able to get some pumps and gains at all after stopping for a while, but after running my 10th or so cycle I know that to keep the peak size then I would have to stick with it.

But hey, just be happy that you are fit and have your health.

Not trying to bum you out. If anyone has quit and is able to keep peaked test levels post-cycle then congrats. But I must say... if you really are able to do that... then why run steroids in the first place?

What im saying is say someone gains 25lbs from a cycle and keeps up with his diet and training(as much as possible) obviously he cannot lift as much, but is it not true that he could keep 10-15lbs of the muscle mass? or its all just temporary? To me then you minds well take you time and train natty and have more permanent gains correct?

-AJ

[bahrianite]

What im saying is say someone gains 25lbs from a cycle and keeps up with his diet and training(as much as possible) obviously he cannot lift as much, but is it not true that he could keep 10-15lbs of the muscle mass? or its all just temporary? To me then you minds well take you time and train natty and have more permanent gains correct?

-AJ

in short you can keep those 10-15 pounds out of the 25!!!it is not true that you lose everything,what the point in doing something thats only temporary??right!!
i have seen guys keep alot after they stopped cycling,not all but alot!!including strength!!!

[bahrianite]

i just ended my first cycle and ive read that you NEED to keep training intensly, not necessarily with the same weights while on cycle, but with same intensity and keep calories up too, to make sure most mass isnt lost. i guess ill have to wait and see

i agree,if you keep training with the same intensity you can keep more than most of what you gained. now lets not confuse intensity with heavy lifting,they both are different things.

if one keeps their diet in check and trains with full heart then you can definatly keep alot of that mass and strength naturally!

[fitguy]

i agree,if you keep training with the same intensity you can keep more than most of what you gained. now lets not confuse intensity with heavy lifting,they both are different things.

if one keeps their diet in check and trains with full heart then you can definatly keep alot of that mass and strength naturally!

even if he stopped juicing right?