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    Quote Originally Posted by wukillabee View Post
    Forgot to respond to ur prop statements/questions. No i have never used prop but the ugl i plan on using have heard its nearly painless at 100mg. I also described my plan at 100mg eod, not ed. I wanted to start out say the first 4 weeks of cycle of prop 100mg eod since ill be taking the anadrol as well. Then stopping anadrol after week 4, bump up my prop to 150mg eod.
    I know bros who have done prop ed and eod with same exact results so thats why im going with eod shots.
    Now if i ever did tren ace and prop i would be doing it ed since many say tren ace has a shorter half life than prop and much less sides ed vs eod. With test prop on the otherhand i dont see a big difference between ed and eod.
    ya, that was my typo. 100 - 150mgs EOD is a good bulker for a second cycle

    Anyway, I'm not a fan of Pyramiding or step dosing things. I would say pick a dose and do it from start to finish. Just because you are taking anadrol doesn't mean you need a lesser dose of prop. My opinion, but your cycle

    Not much difference you will see from EOD to ED schedule as long as you keep the total dose the same I would say. I agree with the ED dose if you are taking Tren A. If you have injection pain though with the EOD prop the you could always cut the dose in half and do it ED and rotate sites to try to reduce it. You'll know if you can tolerate it once you get your brand and try it for the first time.

    You seem to already know what you're talking about. I think you'll do allright with your next cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizz28 View Post
    ya, that was my typo. 100 - 150mgs EOD is a good bulker for a second cycle

    Anyway, I'm not a fan of Pyramiding or step dosing things. I would say pick a dose and do it from start to finish. Just because you are taking anadrol doesn't mean you need a lesser dose of prop. My opinion, but your cycle

    Not much difference you will see from EOD to ED schedule as long as you keep the total dose the same I would say. I agree with the ED dose if you are taking Tren A. If you have injection pain though with the EOD prop the you could always cut the dose in half and do it ED and rotate sites to try to reduce it. You'll know if you can tolerate it once you get your brand and try it for the first time.

    You seem to already know what you're talking about. I think you'll do allright with your next cycle
    True true. Not trying to pyramid this cycle, more want to see how i react from 100mg eod to 150mg eod. Doing cruise dose then slightly going up in dose for cutting purposes only. WOuld my cruise dose be ok during cutting?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wukillabee View Post
    Oh yeah, id only use accutane if it was crazy bad and all over my face too! Thank God my face never got one zit but taking off my shirt, wasnt a pretty picture. Im sure the doxy and scrubs will do the trick.
    Also, in moderation, UV light like tanning beds since it's winter... Does wonders for people with Bacne. Not to mention the aesthetic value

    Quote Originally Posted by wukillabee View Post
    True true. Not trying to pyramid this cycle, more want to see how i react from 100mg eod to 150mg eod. Doing cruise dose then slightly going up in dose for cutting purposes only. WOuld my cruise dose be ok during cutting?
    Oh I see, good plan then since you put it that way. Try 100mgs EOD to see if your body reacts well to it.. after a couple weeks go up. Once again, seems like you know what your talking about... just want confirmation

    your cruising dose is fine... @ 300mgs a week you will be putting yourself on a TRT dose to maintain gains while on your cutting phase without stressing your body by dropping off completely. Which would most likely result in more muscle loss then fat. Not bad, like I said earlier, I think you have a solid 2nd cycle Bulker->Cutter->PCT layed out. I see no faults in it.

    Wait a few days for some of the boards Vets to take a look at it and see what thier input is though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizz28 View Post
    Also, in moderation, UV light like tanning beds since it's winter... Does wonders for people with Bacne. Not to mention the aesthetic value



    Oh I see, good plan then since you put it that way. Try 100mgs EOD to see if your body reacts well to it.. after a couple weeks go up. Once again, seems like you know what your talking about... just want confirmation

    your cruising dose is fine... @ 300mgs a week you will be putting yourself on a TRT dose to maintain gains while on your cutting phase without stressing your body by dropping off completely. Which would most likely result in more muscle loss then fat. Not bad, like I said earlier, I think you have a solid 2nd cycle Bulker->Cutter->PCT layed out. I see no faults in it.

    Wait a few days for some of the boards Vets to take a look at it and see what thier input is though
    When i was on cycle i didnt get not one pimple. It wasnt till pct started and th hormone changes going on that fu*ked me all up. This time during pct it will be summer and will be at the beach a lot and maybe tanning bed if i cant hit the beach so much.
    Thanks for ur input and will wait to hear from more peeps as well, hopefully vets as u said. Will also copy and paste this on other boards and see whats up but i think im sticking to the plan here.
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    Should i cruise and cut at 300mg week or cruise at 200mg week and cut on 300mg week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wukillabee View Post
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    Should i cruise and cut at 300mg week or cruise at 200mg week and cut on 300mg week?

    I would suggest cutting at a dose no lower then 300...400 being max...just to maintain all muscle gains during the cut..

    I'm also not a fan of cruising if by cruising you mean to stay on it year round... ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dizz28 View Post
    ya, that was my typo. 100 - 150mgs EOD is a good bulker for a second cycle

    Anyway, I'm not a fan of Pyramiding or step dosing things. I would say pick a dose and do it from start to finish. Just because you are taking anadrol doesn't mean you need a lesser dose of prop. My opinion, but your cycle

    Not much difference you will see from EOD to ED schedule as long as you keep the total dose the same I would say. I agree with the ED dose if you are taking Tren A. If you have injection pain though with the EOD prop the you could always cut the dose in half and do it ED and rotate sites to try to reduce it. You'll know if you can tolerate it once you get your brand and try it for the first time.

    You seem to already know what you're talking about. I think you'll do allright with your next cycle
    I plan on rotating delts, pecs, tris, and glutes. Tried my quads numerous times first cycle and everytime walked stifflegged for a few days and wasnt worth it. Other sites mentioned no biggie at all and almost zero pain next day. Sure even though this lab might be painless as everyone reports but i can handle some pain since i know the gains will be well worth it. Might even try lats and traps this cycle, any experience with those injection sites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wukillabee View Post
    I plan on rotating delts, pecs, tris, and glutes. Tried my quads numerous times first cycle and everytime walked stifflegged for a few days and wasnt worth it. Other sites mentioned no biggie at all and almost zero pain next day. Sure even though this lab might be painless as everyone reports but i can handle some pain since i know the gains will be well worth it. Might even try lats and traps this cycle, any experience with those injection sites?
    Sites I've tried:

    Glutes, Quads, Delts, Pecs (Once), Bicepts, Forearm (once)

    Glutes: all around one of the best injection sites. Very large muscle group can handle larger amounts of oils with very little pain. Some studies also suggest a better absorbtion rate

    Quads: Not many problems as long as I don't use Prop or larger then 2ml's at a time. Also depending on area whether it's painfull or not. If you flex your leg you'll see a muscle group slightly to the outside and right center length of the Quad. Never had any problems here as long as I shoot somewhat in the middle of that muscle group

    Delt: never had a problem, can handle up to 2.5ml at a time depending on concentration

    Pecs: oncewith test E. hurt like a bastard. never again

    Bicepts: used many times with a slin needle shooting (The brand that was 325mg/ml that took over the dragon brand...hint..forgot the name) it was thin enough, didn't hurt and would do it again

    Forearm: With Andropen back in the day from B D. Swole up, kept hoping I wouldn't develope compartment syndrom

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