maybe if u werent so dead set that a test only cycle is a bad idea for a "newb" ...wait let me got it right ,"the worst cycle ever" *L*... youd have some idea of what it would benefit you at what doses...instead of throwing a bunch of compounds together and seeing what happens. Not too prudent and a waste of money as well as knowledge as to which compounds you personally best respond to . the "worst cycle ever" might be a smarter approach so you can maximize your gains without taking the "shotgun" approach ...just a thought.....