last Hrs of the....bush and his gang

[BuffedGuy]

Theres a flip side to that coin. Remember how you felt after 9-11? He has protected our county and your family from another terrorist attack for 8 years. Yea he made alot of mistakes which he admits but maybe you should also thank him too. None of us have no idea the classified information that he gets on a daily basis but just run our pie holes about what he did wrong.

Let's pretend there was another 9/11 before the 2008 election. The Bush fans would be saying: "see, the country is still under attack so we need to vote for Bush to keep us safe!" But if the same event happened in the first year of Obama's presidency, they would say "see, Obama is responsible for this!" An amazing double-standard.

The truth however is that America will always be a target for terrorists until it withdraws from its campaign of occupation in the world. Invading Iraq didn't make America safer; rather Al-Qaeda's ranks swelled because of it.

When will America learn that invading countries is not the way to be safe? Rather, the best way to keep safe is as Thomas Jefferson said:

"Peace with all nations." --Thomas Jefferson to C. W. F. Dumas, 1793. ME 9:56

And:

"War has been avoided from a due sense of the miseries, and the demoralization it produces, and of the superior blessings of a state of peace and friendship with all mankind." --Thomas Jefferson: Reply to Queen Anne's Country Republicans, 1809. ME 16:363

Obama and the Democrats are only one degree different than Bush and the Republicans; their foreign policy is virtually indistinguishable, and only differs with regards to which part of the world they seek to subjugate. We need someone like Ron Paul, who will return America to what it was founded upon.

[MuscleScience]

I'm glad to see him go as well, as he had 0 respect for the Constitution. Unfortunately, every indication from things the new administration has published indicates that they have 0 respect for the Constitution as well...

I should also inform you Charrif, that it is NOT THE GOVERNMENTS JOB to fix things like job losses and home foreclosures.

Let's pretend there was another 9/11 before the 2008 election. The Bush fans would be saying: "see, the country is still under attack so we need to vote for Bush to keep us safe!" But if the same event happened in the first year of Obama's presidency, they would say "see, Obama is responsible for this!" An amazing double-standard.

The truth however is that America will always be a target for terrorists until it withdraws from its campaign of occupation in the world. Invading Iraq didn't make America safer; rather Al-Qaeda's ranks swelled because of it.

When will America learn that invading countries is not the way to be safe? Rather, the best way to keep safe is as Thomas Jefferson said:

"Peace with all nations." --Thomas Jefferson to C. W. F. Dumas, 1793. ME 9:56

And:

"War has been avoided from a due sense of the miseries, and the demoralization it produces, and of the superior blessings of a state of peace and friendship with all mankind." --Thomas Jefferson: Reply to Queen Anne's Country Republicans, 1809. ME 16:363

Obama and the Democrats are only one degree different than Bush and the Republicans; their foreign policy is virtually indistinguishable, and only differs with regards to which part of the world they seek to subjugate. We need someone like Ron Paul, who will return America to what it was founded upon.

Truer words have never been spoken, both great points by both posters.