Supps to Promote Fingernail Growth

[run_n_fool]

Sort of a strange question, but I smashed my thumb and the nail pretty much died and fell off. I work in close quarters with a lot of people in a professional environment so I'd like the nail to grow back as quickly as possible. Anyone know of anything I can take to speed it along?

[jimmyinkedup]

pectin ....

[spywizard]

prenatal

[IM708]

Biotin

[F4iGuy]

LOTS of protein. I notice my hair/nails grow faster when I eat more.

[BrokenBricks]

Nothing I know of. And a warning, do not take medical advice from this forum. For instance, pectin is a water soluble fiber and is not digested by the body. Even if it *was* absorbed it would be absorbed as simple sugars as it is a carbohydrate. People have no self regulatory mechanism to prevent them from posting on topics they know nothing about here. Be warned.

[IM708]

Sort of a strange question, but I smashed my thumb and the nail pretty much died and fell off. I work in close quarters with a lot of people in a professional environment so I'd like the nail to grow back as quickly as possible. Anyone know of anything I can take to speed it along?

Is there anything wrong with suggesting biotin...?

[jimmyinkedup]

Nothing I know of. And a warning, do not take medical advice from this forum. For instance, pectin is a water soluble fiber and is not digested by the body. Even if it *was* absorbed it would be absorbed as simple sugars as it is a carbohydrate. People have no self regulatory mechanism to prevent them from posting on topics they know nothing about here. Be warned.

You are a tool who thinks he knows everything (very typical of most egotistical doctors ..if u make it to being one you'll fit right in) , and with a condescending attitude to boot:

"studies have shown that the consumption of 7 to 10 g/day can significantly improve nail growth rate and strength (17) and it also promotes hair growth"

References:
1. A.J. Bailey and R.G. Paul. 82(3), 104-110. (1998)
2. . D.J. Prockop. Matrix Biol. 16(9), 519-528. (1998).
3. W.M. Marrs. Carbohydrate interactions and their effect on the structure and texture of confectionery gels in Progress in Food science and Nutrition 6, 259-268. Ed. G.O. Phillips, P.A. Williams, D.J. Wedlok. Pergamon Press. Oxford . New York . Toronto . Sydney . Paris . Frankfurt. 1982.

Go back to your residency junior - you are about as helpful on this forum as most doctors (or more appropriately wanna be doctors) with absolutely no knowledge other than textbook (hell ive even seen some of your posts where you display a lack of that as well!).

Oh and to the OP - id be very cautious of "medical advice" given out on such serious conditions as a broken fingernail ... esp when it recommends one of the safest, naturally occuring food additives ever used (total sarcasm there)

[crazycrab]

I know that Biotin speeds hair and nail growth.

[IM708]

You are a tool who thinks he knows everything (very typical of most egotistical doctors ..if u make it to being one you'll fit right in) , and with a condescending attitude to boot:

100% agree, there are doctors of many different things, physical therapist, lawyers, pediatricians, foot doctors, etc. A doctor IMO doesn't mean sh!t. Are you going to ask your auto mechanic the correct well to do your plumbing? NO, So then why would you take any advice from a pediatrician on how to do diet correctly? You need to either speak to a registered dietician or possibly a biochemist.

[BrokenBricks]

100% agree, there are doctors of many different things, physical therapist, lawyers, pediatricians, foot doctors, etc. A doctor IMO doesn't mean sh!t. Are you going to ask your auto mechanic the correct well to do your plumbing? NO, So then why would you take any advice from a pediatrician on how to do diet correctly? You need to either speak to a registered dietician or possibly a biochemist.

The word doctor is synonymous with a physician holding an M.D. degree and in some countries the D.O. degree. Within academia PhD holders and many others are referred to as doctor...but there is hardly any confusion as to who is being asked for when someone screams "I need a doctor" on a plane. In fact, that is a pretty useful way of putting it. Whenever someone is screaming "Is there a doctor here?" They don't mean a doctor of philosophy or a physical therapist. They mean a residency trained medical school graduate with a license to practice medicine.

What in gods name does a biochemist know about how to eat. Bizarre.
A registered diatician can have as little as a college degree and a 3/4 year hands on stint. I guarantee you they are not learning about how to turn people into Frank Zane. What you *should* do is learn how to find quality information on your own and not take anyone's word unless you have no other option.

[Narkissos]

^^

[amcon]

Sort of a strange question, but I smashed my thumb and the nail pretty much died and fell off. I work in close quarters with a lot of people in a professional environment so I'd like the nail to grow back as quickly as possible. Anyone know of anything I can take to speed it along?

nail polish... or go and get a fake one put on at a girls finger nail place (seriously) it will take longer to grow your back but in the mean while you hand wont look like a carpenters hand...

let us know what you did - i love french manicures btw

but seriously i have a few friends that are gear heads, guy slammed his hand putting a motor in... and he is public speaker - same situation - had a fake put on for a few months till it grew back - lol it looked real - he took a lot of crap for it but ...

[Narkissos]

nail polish... or go and get a fake one put on at a girls finger nail place (seriously) it will take longer to grow your back but in the mean while you hand wont look like a carpenters hand...

let us know what you did - i love french manicures btw

but seriously i have a few friends that are gear heads, guy slammed his hand putting a motor in... and he is public speaker - same situation - had a fake put on for a few months till it grew back - lol it looked real - he took a lot of crap for it but ...

This is actually a very solid post mate.

I wouldn't have thought of doing that.

Nice.

[amcon]

This is actually a very solid post mate.

I wouldn't have thought of doing that.

Nice.

Narkissos - thank you - what else would you expect from me -

[jimmyinkedup]

^^^ *L* I rest my case - you are a tool ... get some form of life apprentice doctor boy. I certainly am secure enough to realize i need prove nothing to an insecure, egotistical , narrow minded , ignorant , wanna be member of the medical profession. Its great that i get to, in my profession (oh one where im not an apprentice btw..), make fools of doctors with your narrow minded egotistical views. For your own benefit id re -read my post (#18) you might learn something that may actually help you in your career. BTW when are you going to post anything that remotely resembles first hand knowledge or experience on ANY of the topics you jump in on? just curious....

[BrokenBricks]

^^^ *L* I rest my case - you are a tool ... get some form of life apprentice doctor boy. I certainly am secure enough to realize i need prove nothing to an insecure, egotistical , narrow minded , ignorant , wanna be member of the medical profession. Its great that i get to, in my profession (oh one where im not an apprentice btw..), make fools of doctors with your narrow minded egotistical views. For your own benefit id re -read my post (#18) you might learn something that may actually help you in your career. BTW when are you going to post anything that remotely resembles first hand knowledge or experience on ANY of the topics you jump in on? just curious....

So that is a big fat *NO* ladies and gentlemen when it comes to the question of whether he can provide on shred of evidence that his bro-knowledge is *actual* knowledge.

Pectin is fiber. End of story. Fiber...

[Emondo]

can't go wrong with a good muti vit

[jimmyinkedup]

*sigh* so ive heard something for years ..you come here with your arrogance and condescending demeanor (as u usually do - check your post history) - calling me out making ludicrous warnings of not taking medical advice from people who dont know what they are talking about blah blah blah... So i goggle it ..in 3 mins find a study - cut and paste pertinent point and references - did i check references - of course not - its a broken fingernail einstein. Did i find it in JAMA or New England Journal of Medicine? Of course not - hopefully more prevalent and serious studies are being published in those resources. You say to me prove it - like its my theory - i feel no obligation to prove anything - u appear to know how to surf the net - you look it up.*L*
OK I say disprove it? Should i make you look like a total fool and ask you to explain the mechanism of action of say 10 pharmaceuticals prescribed regularly where no one (yeah not even you!*L*) knows the exact mechanism of action? I dunno - off the cuff , total speculation is it possible - total guess , ill even give you far fetched...the cleansing effect of a fiber might in fact improve immune function and therefore speed healing / bodies regeneration of fingernails as well (now im by no means saying it does but is it possible oh great doctor? do you know for sure it doesnt? I know in my work stranger discoveries have been found - no doubt ). Or maybe the lowering of cholesterol by fiber intake - improved coronary health ..leading to improved blood flow speeds the growth of fingernails. I mean the nails on our dominant hand grow faster than on our non dominant - many attribute that to increased usage and blood flow - ridiculous - maybe - possible ...maybe - prove it wrong einstein. Maybe (more likely scenario) - just like drugs you MAY get to prescribe ....the mechanism of action is unknown ..it just works - get used to that doctor wanna be - you'll be prescribing countless meds that you will prob try to make up how exactly they work when and if your potential patients ask (god i fear for them with your narrow minded arrogance)*L*
You really are a tool ....and you really should in all seriousness read my post #18 - it honestly could help you....
Like i continue to say When will you EVER post on a topic with some form of first hand knowledge or experience?
Such an egotistical narrow minded pr*ck ...it scares me that people like you actually are entrusted with the health of human beings ...it really does. God id love to have you consult in a clinical trial .better yet on early phase pharmaceutical r &d....get your initial input on potential effects/outcomes etc... and make you look like the total fool that you are.....

[BrokenBricks]

*sigh* so ive heard something for years ..you come here with your arrogance and condescending demeanor (as u usually do - check your post history) - calling me out making ludicrous warnings of not taking medical advice from people who dont know what they are talking about blah blah blah... So i goggle it ..in 3 mins find a study - cut and paste pertinent point and references - did i check references - of course not - its a broken fingernail einstein. Did i find it in JAMA or New England Journal of Medicine? Of course not - hopefully more prevalent and serious studies are being published in those resources. You say to me prove it - like its my theory - i feel no obligation to prove anything - u appear to know how to surf the net - you look it up.*L*
OK I say disprove it? Should i make you look like a total fool and ask you to explain the mechanism of action of say 10 pharmaceuticals prescribed regularly where no one (yeah not even you!*L*) knows the exact mechanism of action? I dunno - off the cuff , total speculation is it possible - total guess , ill even give you far fetched...the cleansing effect of a fiber might in fact improve immune function and therefore speed healing / bodies regeneration of fingernails as well (now im by no means saying it does but is it possible oh great doctor? do you know for sure it doesnt? I know in my work stranger discoveries have been found - no doubt ). Or maybe the lowering of cholesterol by fiber intake - improved coronary health ..leading to improved blood flow speeds the growth of fingernails. I mean the nails on our dominant hand grow faster than on our non dominant - many attribute that to increased usage and blood flow - ridiculous - maybe - possible ...maybe - prove it wrong einstein. Maybe (more likely scenario) - just like drugs you MAY get to prescribe ....the mechanism of action is unknown ..it just works - get used to that doctor wanna be - you'll be prescribing countless meds that you will prob try to make up how exactly they work when and if your potential patients ask (god i fear for them with your narrow minded arrogance)*L*
You really are a tool ....and you really should in all seriousness read my post #18 - it honestly could help you....
Like i continue to say When will you EVER post on a topic with some form of first hand knowledge or experience?
Such an egotistical narrow minded pr*ck ...it scares me that people like you actually are entrusted with the health of human beings ...it really does. God id love to have you consult in a clinical trial .better yet on early phase pharmaceutical r &d....get your initial input on potential effects/outcomes etc... and make you look like the total fool that you are.....

I get it. You think I'm naughty. I'm a naughty little boy. This wickedness on my part excuses your duty to back up your claims about pectin. Makes perfect sense to me. A man of science, you surely are.

I get that you are over 40 and still need to use ad hominem attacks to express yourself.

What still confuses me is why you keep bringing up mechanism of action. A mechanism need not be established conclusively to have *extremely* good evidence supporting somethings efficacy. I shouldn't have to go into this, and I wont because it is obvious. Why you feel the need to continually bring it up as if it was relevant to the discussion is a mystery. I am not asking you to provide the mechanism, I am asking you to provide some shred of data that establishes efficacy. Something you can't do. Instead you think it is my duty to prove pectin does nothing. As though if you were to claim you saw Elvis yesterday I am being unreasonable to ask for you to provide evidence, but you see it as *my* duty to prove you *didn't* see Elvis. I think they teach children in high school that we don't prove negatives.

I wonder if you are just trying to get a rise out of me with the "MAY get to prescribe" type comments (fair enough, a little below someone of your age, but ok...) or if you are truly this ignorant of what stage of my career I am. I have a license to practice medicine. I write prescriptions. I admit, diagnose, order tests, preform procedures like central lines, arterial lines, chest tubes, spinal taps and intubations. I discharge patients when I think they are ready to leave. When a patient asks me a question I have *zero* problem telling them I don't know if I don't know. Whatever concept you have of what I do it is comically inaccurate.

And for the love of Christ learn to make paragraphs. It doesn't help you angle toward the intellectual high ground when you type like a lazy sixth grader.

[jimmyinkedup]

^^ oh and yes there is a 4th scenario (actually potentially hundreds) - maybe it doesn't help , maybe nothing does. It came from somewhere and apparently has some form of foundation. ....boy i recommended some dangerous advice ....that pectin - beware ...it can be sooooo harmful *L* ...get a clue ...

[BrokenBricks]

^^ oh and yes there is a 4th scenario (actually potentially hundreds) - maybe it doesn't help , maybe nothing does. It came from somewhere and apparently has some form of foundation. ....boy i recommended some dangerous advice ....that pectin - beware ...it can be sooooo harmful *L* ...get a clue ...

Let me summarize this post.

"I opened my mouth, something silly came out and got called on it. I can't provide evidence so my defense is now that Pectin will not kill you."

Strong testimonial.

"Try new product X! Listen to this satisfied customer!"

Satisfied Customer: "I did not die from product X!"

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

"Scientific evidence shows that when exposed to water for long periods of time your finger nails grow faster. The tough protein called keratin begins to form quicker because keratin is made of 67% water.
Rubbing garlic on them makes the keratin grow faster, also. Get the garlic cut it up in pieces, make the juice of the garlic comes out and you rub that on your fingernails leave on for about 30 minutes then wash your hands. "

-wikianswers

or just get garlic gel capsules. And prick it with a needle. and get the garlic gel and put on....

[BrokenBricks]

"Scientific evidence shows that when exposed to water for long periods of time your finger nails grow faster. The tough protein called keratin begins to form quicker because keratin is made of 67% water.
Rubbing garlic on them makes the keratin grow faster, also. Get the garlic cut it up in pieces, make the juice of the garlic comes out and you rub that on your fingernails leave on for about 30 minutes then wash your hands. "

-wikianswers

or just get garlic gel capsules. And prick it with a needle. and get the garlic gel and put on....

Jesus Christ....

[xlxBigSexyxlx]

Jesus Christ....

I cant say anything about the water thing


but I know people who have used garlic and saw noticeable differences

so i dont know what your jesus christing about...

[jimmyinkedup]

Let me summarize this post.

"I opened my mouth, something silly came out and got called on it. I can't provide evidence so my defense is now that Pectin will not kill you."

Strong testimonial.

"Try new product X! Listen to this satisfied customer!"

Satisfied Customer: "I did not die from product X!"

yeah that was in response to the first assenine statement you made, and i quote, "And a warning, do not take medical advice from this forum.For instance, pectin is a water soluble fiber and is not digested by the body. Even if it *was* absorbed it would be absorbed as simple sugars as it is a carbohydrate. People have no self regulatory mechanism to prevent them from posting on topics they know nothing about here. Be warned"

Yeah i get subsidized by the local acme every time someone goes there and purchases pectin - what a tool ....
Oh and wheres you evidence that is doesnt work ...i provided something ...you on the other hand well ...whatever....what you provide here on a regular basis is obvious. Not much and absolutely no advice based on first hand knowledge or experience. Im so over you and your arrogance ...why i waste far to much time and energy with people like you is truly something I must take a look at.

[BrokenBricks]

yeah that was in response to the first assenine statement you made, and i quote, "And a warning, do not take medical advice from this forum. For instance, pectin is a water soluble fiber and is not digested by the body. Even if it *was* absorbed it would be absorbed as simple sugars as it is a carbohydrate. People have no self regulatory mechanism to prevent them from posting on topics they know nothing about here. Be warned"

I don't understand your point here. My post stands as quoted.

[jimmyinkedup]

^^^ Wow that info scares me more, but unfortunately im not surprised. I nailed it: arrogant , egotistical , narrow minded ...and a tool . Oh and apparently an English minor in the educational mix somewhere. Please excuse my grammar ...i realize how pertinent that is. How funny a doctor criticizing grammar ...even you have to laugh at that one!
btw - Did i anywhere claim to have discovered this pectin suggestion? Do i think it may work - possibly.Is it in anyway irresponsible or harmful - NO. There is more info saying it does work re: this topic than you can provide saying it doesn't. Best of luck ...I can only hope my wish re: working with you and making you look like the fool you are comes true someday....if not it's ok ...i get to do it to plenty just like you regularly...

[BrokenBricks]

Do i think it may work - possibly.

There. Was that so hard?

And no one gives a damn what you do for a living. Sorry.

[IM708]

There. Was that so hard?

And no one gives a damn what you do for a living. Sorry.

Nobody gives a shit that your a doctor. Just a guy with a god complex bout himself.

[BrokenBricks]

Nobody gives a shit that your a doctor.

Which is why I don't bring it up wise guy. *That* guy did. *That* guy seems to think every post I make needs to be interpreted in the context of my profession.

If you want to play please do better than this.

[IM708]

If you want to play please do better than this.

I'll take you in a game of checkers any day....

[jimmyinkedup]

Which is why I don't bring it up wise guy. *That* guy did. *That* guy seems to think every post I make needs to be interpreted in the context of my profession.

If you want to play please do better than this.

One need only refer to your post history to see the type of individual you are (and your career i might add) and also your egotistical , arrogant demeanor. Hmmm and how did i ever know you were in your residency??? I must be psychic....
Again i ask when will you EVER contribute to this forum based on first hand knowledge and experience ? Im just wondering?
Later Doc (using the term very loosely)....

[jimmyinkedup]

.....

[jimmyinkedup]

I hereby knowledge your assertion that I am arrogant. Do you need to clog the internet tubes with this every post you make? Seriously, repeating yourself every post is boring any poor souls still reading this.

"Again i ask when will you EVER contribute to this forum based on first hand knowledge and experience?" What I do has no relevance to anything discussed on this board generally. I deal with sick hospitalized patients. Again, what I do has no relevance. It just takes a skull an two neurons to rub together to see that 90% of the advice given around here is just a game of telephone, parroting from one "bro" to another.


^^ no doc please do enlighten us with your working knowledge of workouts & training methods, anabolic steroid usage , supplementation you recommend , overall first hand pertinent experience on the topics posted on within this forum. I sure dont see any of that in your post history ...just antagonizing condescending post after post, taking threads off topic , textbook knowledge (at times debatable levels of knowledge at that) and from what ive read little to no positive contribution to the forum whatsoever.

[BrokenBricks]

^^ no doc please do enlighten us with your working knowledge of workouts & training methods, anabolic steroid usage , supplementation you recommend , overall first hand pertinent experience on the topics posted on within this forum. from what ive read little to no positive contribution to the forum whatsoever.

I don't post on anabolics for the most part becuase I don't know enough to contribute. In my universe not knowing a lot about something is a good reason not to make authoritative posts on subjects. In yours, well....you have demonstrated your different take on that matter quite well.

My contribution is in exposing charlatans like yourself who are only to eager to display confidence and ignorance simultaneously. I get plenty of PMs from people who appreciate my posts.

Take a hike, you bore me.

[jimmyinkedup]

I don't post on anabolics for the most part becuase I don't know enough to contribute. In my universe not knowing a lot about something is a good reason not to make authoritative posts on subjects. In yours, well....you have demonstrated your different take on that matter quite well.

My contribution is in exposing charlatans like yourself who are only to eager to display confidence and ignorance simultaneously. I get plenty of PMs from people who appreciate my posts.

Take a hike, you bore me.

ok Mr tren is a dht derivative and therefore does not require 5ar ...blah blah blah .... Oh but wait einstein ...its a 19 nor ...and since you have no idea about interactions invoving 19-nor and 5 ar ...you just stick to your original info in that thread -, wandering cluelessly and aimlessly providing info on a topic that you display nothing but ignorance on. So much for not posting on topics that you dont know enough to contribute. Im so glad you are here to keep charlatans like me at bay*LOL* Once again BrokenBricks - you never cease to amaze me.... I may bore you ...the fact you are a potential doctor scares the hell out of me....
(above info pulled from "BrokenBricks" feedback on finasteride just a day or 2 ago....)
Id put my knowledge and experience on any thread ive posted / responded to against yours any day... At least mine is a combination of knowledge and first hand experience in most cases.....
Actually id love to see you be a positve contributor to this board .. it would just be nice if you opened up your mind, lost the condescending, arrogant , know it all attitude, and shared a least somewhat based on first hand knowledge and experience.

[BrokenBricks]

ok Mr tren is a dht derivative and therefore does not require 5ar ...blah blah blah .... Oh but wait einstein ...its a 19 nor ...and since you have no idea about interactions invoving 19-nor and 5 ar ...you just stick to your original info in that thread -, wandering cluelessly and aimlessly providing info on a topic that you display nothing but ignorance on. So much for not posting on topics that you dont know enough to contribute. Im so glad you are here to keep charlatans like me at bay*LOL* Once again Doc - you never cease to amaze me.... I may bore you ...the fact you are a potential doctor scares the hell out of me....
(above info pulled from "Dr I have no life or friend"s feedback on finasteride just a day or 2 ago....)
Get lost you tool ....id put my knowledge and experience on any thread ive posted / responded to against yours any day... At least mine is a combination of knowledge and experience in most cases.....

Tren being a 19-nor vs a DHT is not relevant to this post *or* the post you got it from. Yet do you see how I handled my mistake in that thread? I quickly and graciously admitted my error and moved on. That is how adults handle themselves. It happens to be that whether tren is a DHT derivative or a 19-nor a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor has no effect on them. It is just not the nature of the chemical as it is understood. So the point still stands.

If you feel like you need to stalk my post history to compensate for your complete inability to justify what is happening in *this* thread, well...ok. I don't think you will get far.

I really am shocked a guy past 40 fills his posts with school yard taunts. Doesn't that strike anyone as odd? Being witty and insulting is one thing...but "You have no life or friends" is not just dumb. It is boring and unoriginal.

I made a few points here you could respond to...but let me just reply for you to save you the trouble

"You are a tool. You have no life. I am way smarter than you. But *you* are arrogant. You are a trainee nurse assistant. I know more because I have lived in the real world where I experience things. You do not experience things."

I think that covers it.

[jimmyinkedup]

oh wait a first - rubbing in and of itself is plausible to stimulate nail growth .... a pearl of wisdom from the doctor - actually one of your potentially best contributions. *L*
ok im done ...for real ....good evening...

[MuscleScience]

Guys guys guys, Lighten up on the Doc a bit. You have to understand where he is coming from. He is not trying to be arrogant he is being confident. There is a difference and yes sometimes its a fine line. But in the ER or the OR or ICU, or SICU a doctor can not second guess himself or someone could die. He cant hesitate, he cant show weakness because the medical profession is extremely competitive and based on respect. It takes a lot for a doctor to earn the respect of his pears. Its not just automatically give just like any other profession. I have worked closely with hundreds of doctors on different ventures and educational experiences and at first its intimidating and you feel like all the docs are assholes, which in reality they are simple showing that they are confident and know what there doing. Except for Cardiologist they are assholes...LOL

So just keep that in mind when he makes a post you think is arrogant, It may not mean what you looks like at first. I know he has question me in a thread or two and I could have got pissed but he was simply trying to help, plus I understand the medical culture which yes is brutally honest at times. Science is the same way and you cant get your feelings hurt.

I am not defending him, thats between you guys. Just try to understand his perspective. I am sure most thought i was an arrogant ass when I started posting>(or still do).....LOL