Is there hope for Europe?

[BuffedGuy]

We must all become students of history. It really gives a lot of perspective on things.

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We must all become students of history. It really gives a lot of perspective on things.

It one thing to read about it because we all know what is written and said is true...or is it better to live it buffedguy? you have no clue on Iraq and what is going on over there except what you read and get off the web...grow up dude.

[BuffedGuy]

It one thing to read about it because we all know what is written and said is true...or is it better to live it buffedguy? you have no clue on Iraq and what is going on over there except what you read and get off the web...grow up dude.

Peace be unto you.

What exactly do you mean by "what is going on over there"?

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Peace be unto you.

What exactly do you mean by "what is going on over there"?

On what is going on in Iraq...

[BuffedGuy]

On what is going on in Iraq...

I know that, but what I am asking is: what exactly do I not get about what is going on over there?

[BgMc31]

It one thing to read about it because we all know what is written and said is true...or is it better to live it buffedguy? you have no clue on Iraq and what is going on over there except what you read and get off the web...grow up dude.

Could it be that what you've been told/sold is inaccurate Prone? My father (a 30yr army vet) always told me that soldiers shouldn't get into political discussions because they are kept in the dark more than the general public. For you to tell BuffedGuy to grow up without siting any real info regarding the current conflict shows a certain level of childishness. There is no reason to make this personal or insulting. Everyone debating this topic has sited qualified arguments.

For every soldier who is gung ho supporting the Iraq conflict, I can produce an equal amount if not more who don't buy into the propaganda from either side and just "do their job". And I'm talking about SpecOps guys and marines.

[BuffedGuy]

For every soldier who is gung ho supporting the Iraq conflict, I can produce an equal amount if not more who don't buy into the propaganda from either side and just "do their job". And I'm talking about SpecOps guys and marines.

Thank you for your post.

I also want to point out that there are many brave soldiers who have refused to serve and spoken out.

I spent four days in the hospital with a veteran who served in three different wars. He and I became friends, and he said that it took him a long time to realize that it's just horse poop what they were selling him. He even suffered the effects of Agent Orange...but let's just say that not all veterans or those who are a part of the military are gung-ho.

What I think we need is for people to work towards mutual understanding, peace, and cooperation. On both sides--the American side and the Muslim world--we have people calling towards war. Let us call to peace!

Bombing the entire Muslim world to pieces won't stop terrorism. It will only increase it. Conversely, Muslim extremists bombing different civilian areas is not going to help their own situation; it will only worsen it when the American side reacts with full force.

In the Care of the Lord,
-Saladin.

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Could it be that what you've been told/sold is inaccurate Prone? My father (a 30yr army vet) always told me that soldiers shouldn't get into political discussions because they are kept in the dark more than the general public. One I am not a kid I am 43 years old and think for myself and talk about what I have seen not what I read and what I have been told.For you to tell BuffedGuy to grow up without siting any real info regarding the current conflict shows a certain level of childishness. I am telling buffedguy to grow up because it is a fact of war that innocent people die on bothsides and not to just talk about what he told and reads. There is no reason to make this personal or insulting. I am not trying to make it personal or insulting at times I dont get a little upset I will admit that Everyone debating this topic has sited qualified arguments.Thanks I think[/B]

For every soldier who is gung ho supporting the Iraq conflict, I can produce an equal amount if not more who don't buy into the propaganda from either side and just "do their job". And I'm talking about SpecOps guys and marines.

I would like to close with I am proud of what your dad did and want to thank him for that. I am also talking about specops and contractors and as one I got to know them first hand and even spent days months and years with the Iraqis and others.